[quote=North Lincs Mike]The only good thing that may have come out of this sorry affair is that the "management" will realise not to take devoted volunteers for granted. [/quote]

But remember that the "management" are also devoted volunteers.

[quote]I have always prefered to use Senecio, but looking at it logically, I suppose there is sufficient floral variation within the succulent Senecios to suggest a division. I'm thinking of all those with a heterogamous capitulum and disc florets which appear to be more like our garden Senecios (fl...

[quote]what I happily took for a Senecio became a Kleinia[/quote] Well, mine are still Senecios. You can consider it either a Kleinia or a Senecio, I find it easier to class them all as Senecios. [quote]And if that wasn't enough, the change in the family name gives us a latinised sex change[/quote] ...

[quote]I am just hoping it does not require too much winter heat seeing as it comes from Zambia and Tanzania! [/quote]

I kept mine at about 8C. It was fine for 5 winters but rotted last winter. I'm trying to reroot the bits I saved.

[quote]I just did a quick google on Euphorbia ephedroides v. debilis, not many images on the net, but when I found one it was quite different, just a smooth twiggy thing.[/quote] I didn't find any images - it was just the closest name I could find. [quote]However, I did a bit more digging and found ...

I have a similar plant labeled as Euphorbia debilis, although looking round the web it seems it should be called Euphorbia ephedroides v. debilis.

[quote=BrianMc]I'm afraid I don't know this plant, but looks more like a Senecio than a sedum IMHO.[/quote]

It looks like Senecio muirii.

I think the Senecio (or Kleinia if you prefer) shown above is wrongly labelled. It looks more like Senecio mweroensis ssp. saginatus (Kleinia saginata) - upright, fatter stem, shorter "spiders", branching at the top. The one below it looks like Senecio pendulus (Kleinia pendula) - pendulou...

Plant sales at the zone 9 convention:

The Plant Lovers (Tim Wilson)
Kilnwood Cacti (Doug Donaldson)
Tony Irons
Alan Phipps
Paul Bond
Graham Charles
Dorothy Minors
David Quail

There has been a change to the published programme for the Zone 9 convention on Sunday 22nd April, at Hardwicke, near Gloucester. The speakers are now: Graham Charles - Gymnocalycium Dorothy Minors - IOS Kirstenbosch and the Little Karoo David Quail - Eyecatchers Tickets are still available from zon...