Agave Parrasana woken up at last

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Re: Agave Parrasana woken up at last

Postby BrianMc » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:10 am

Great story and pics Dave, but can you fill in some of the gaps between flowering and the next generation?

I am curious to know what species you used to pollinate your plant, and if all those pollinations were successful. Are those the seedlings we see?
Also, did you self pollinate any of the flowers and if so, did these produce seed?
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Re: Agave Parrasana woken up at last

Postby agavedave » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:52 am

For this plant there was quite a bit of experimentation with pollination.

I used pollen from,

1).polycantha that was a mix of pollen stored in the fridge and some that had been frozen a month earlier
2). sobria that had been stored in the fridge for a month
3). fresh pollen from vic reg. This was given to me by a friend on a screwed up tissue < 24h between collection and use.
4). wasps crawling all over a one point so maybe own pollen as well. It was moved back in the GH afterwards.

Quite a bit of pollen was harvested, dried and frozen for future use, so anthers were removed before the stigmas became receptive.

The few that received the vic reg pollen didn't take and dropped off about a week after the stigma collapsed.

The pods that had sobria pollen, the first to come into flower took a lot longer to ripen than the rest and the yield of black seed was much lower.

Late evening was the best time to apply pollen when the stigmas became sticky, by the next morning they had dried out a bit but still received pollen.

Seed was harvested through the winter as the pods turned brown and crispy, The pods were stored in a home made dessicator at ~30% relative humidity until the pods started to split open. Seeds were then sorted and placed in vials back in the dessicator. After a couple of days the vials were capped and placed in a kilner jar. The pods were labelled at the time of pollination through to seed cleaning and stored seperately.

The seedlings are still quite small so it's hard to tell if I am going to end up with a heap of parrasana or some hybrids.

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Re: Agave Parrasana woken up at last

Postby FaeLLe » Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:09 pm

Dave I would be really interested to have something from the Parrasana x with Sobria if the seeds do turn out to be viable. The spination is going to be terrific on them!
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Re: Agave Parrasana woken up at last

Postby Cactus Jack » Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:13 pm

Yes please for seedlings , Thanks for sharing this :grin:
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Re: Agave Parrasana woken up at last

Postby agavedave » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:41 pm

November Update.

Attached are some pictures of the seedlings so far.

There seems to be two distinct variants so far but there are a few oddities as well.

Also there's a picture of my grow lights. A couple of spare aluminium shelves, and aluminium angle. It just sits in the window ledge and the grow lights are on a timer for an hour in the morning and 4 hours at night just to extend the day.


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Re: Agave Parrasana woken up at last

Postby FaeLLe » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:14 pm

Beautiful , do we get first dibs if you don't want some of them :cool:
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Re: Agave Parrasana woken up at last

Postby agavedave » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:09 am

The kind gentleman that allowed me to harvest some of his sobria pollen gets first dibs. I'm going to hand over a batch soon just in case I have a disaster and loose the lot.

I'm sure that there will be plenty to spread around next summer once we can see how they grow in full sun. I have a couple of trays in the greenhouse as well just for comparison to see if these grow lights do get them a bit further on by next spring. First impression is that some are a bit leggy but hoping that they still build up some energy and gain an advantage once they go back in the GH next spring.

I still have some seed saved so once I know which pods yielded the more desireable seedling, I'll sow some more next spring.

The x-sobria cross will be limited, probably about 50 seeds. the x-polycantha cross there's 100's of 'em.


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Re: Agave Parrasana woken up at last

Postby Tina » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:17 am

Well done, they are looking good. What a nice achievement to produce your own hybrid seedlings, there are some very pretty hybrids.
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