Aztekium valdezii, what is the world coming to?

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Re: Aztekium valdezii, what is the world coming to?

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Nice picture of Aztekium valdezii here:-

http://www.cactusi.net/poza.php?id=5431
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DaveW wrote:Nice picture of Aztekium valdezii here:-

http://www.cactusi.net/poza.php?id=5431
Already one digged (dug?) out of the dirt? That's not a good sign...
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Maybe it'd be better if we just didn't discover species and left them to there own devices.At least the list would be shorter for people to go an collect...
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GregoryBulmer wrote:Maybe it'd be better if we just didn't discover species and left them to there own devices.At least the list would be shorter for people to go an collect...
If no one looked for plants in habitat. this Forum or Hobby wouldn't exist.
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Yes certainly. It was more meaning they'd be less for people to starting digging up. Like that picture,only just discovered but someones still dug it up and shoved it in a pot. I was talking more ideally than realistically really.
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I understand what you mean Gregory, I would love one of these new plants myself, but I don't like the idea of the habitat being wrecked to get it.
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Me too Jeff,but I'll have to wait,the initial seedlings will be priced out of my budget!
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DaveW wrote:Lets hope DNA studies are done first this time to prove relationships or possible hybridity before the morphologists try and classify or reclassify it on visual characteristics alone, as they did with Digitostigma.
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Was that really done with Digitostigma? What was discovered? I'm sure that it was not a hybrid, but was it determined which Astro it is closest related to? Don't suppose you have a link to a discussion of the results? I'd love to read it!
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See http://www.bcss.org.uk/foruma/viewtopic ... 9&#p213259 John. The rest of Astrophytum are caput-medusae's nearest relative, meaning it's a matter of taste whether you treat it as Astrophytum or Digitostigma.
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Hi,
Already one digged (dug?) out of the dirt? That's not a good sign...
The potted plant is part of a program designed to make seeds commercially available in a relatively short period of time. The intention is to avoid to a certain extent habitat destruction. Similar so Digitostigma Project. However, It's sad that the pictures leaked out and now the world knows now about it. The need for sensationalism. I disagree with all who published pictures and generated a huge interest in this plant.The original description is still due to appear, seeds are not available yet... it shouldn't have happened.

We, at Xerophilia, knew about Aztekium valdezii since December last year. We even secured the right to publish pictures & info, once officially published. However, we didn't put anything in our June issue, even if the entire thing came out couple of weeks before. People risk their lives to get the plant and make seeds / seedlings available in the shortest time possible, without interfering too much with the habitat. Luckily valdezii grows in an are where not many people would want to go, and people living there are not interested in cacti, if you know what I mean. There is a chance that habitat destruction won't happen to the extent it happened with Digitostigma, where again, it was leaked information causing the damage.

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