Systemic insecticide for red spider mite

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Re: Systemic insecticide for red spider mite

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I'm reasonably confident I can tell my predatory mites from my two-spotted, but the problem with all the contact insecticides (of which there is plenty of choice, including good non-neonicotinoid options) is just that they depend on contact. Not a problem on a Rebutia but a real problem on a climbing Ipomoea. Hence my question about systemic miticides, which do not appear to exist!
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Ladies and gentlemen I am pleased to provide a solution to this.

Looks like Bayer Movento has been approved for domestic usage, it is based off the latest ingredient spirotetramat which is a systemic mitecide and works against spider mites, mealies, scale insect etc.

Product information available at - http://cropscience.bayer.co.uk/our-prod ... s/movento/

I just got myself a box which is a bit pricey but looking forward to how it works!

P.S. do not consider this post legal advice or a recommendation to use this product.
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FaeLLe wrote:
I just got myself a box which is a bit pricey but looking forward to how it works!
From ebay (Italy)? seems the only source at the moment. At about pounds 23 to make up 8-10 litres of spray, yes a bit pricey.
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Abamectin is a systemic (technically translaminar) miticide that has been available at times in the UK. I don't believe any retail product currently contains it, but it is is available from the usual sources as well as several EU countries. It is extremely effective against mites although resistance is reported. I have no idea what its current regulatory state is in this country, the last time I saw it was mixed with one of the neonicotinoids that was withdrawn a couple of years back (still sold elsewhere as Thiamectin).
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iann wrote:Abamectin is a systemic (technically translaminar) miticide that has been available at times in the UK. .
I am confused by your post. The OP is about Movento, which seems to be active ingredient spirotetramat. I have also searched for documentary confirmation regarding UK (or EU FWIW now) approval for domestic use of Movento. In vain.
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ragamala wrote:
iann wrote:Abamectin is a systemic (technically translaminar) miticide that has been available at times in the UK. .
I am confused by your post. The OP is about Movento, which seems to be active ingredient spirotetramat. I have also searched for documentary confirmation regarding UK (or EU FWIW now) approval for domestic use of Movento. In vain.
The title of this thread is "Systemic insecticide for red spider mite", and the OP question was "Is there a systemic insecticide (available in the UK) that is effective on red spider mite?" One recent reply happened to mention Movento, and I mentioned a different chemical that can be used against red spider mite. Still confused?
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Re: Systemic insecticide for red spider mite

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iann wrote:
ragamala wrote:
iann wrote:One recent reply happened to mention Movento, and I mentioned a different chemical that can be used against red spider mite. Still confused?
Mia culpa. After three years I had assumed new posts would have referred to FaLLe's post, and not resurrected other

So what's your assessment of the efficacy of "abamectin" versus "spirotetramat"?
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ragamala wrote:I have also searched for documentary confirmation regarding UK (or EU FWIW now) approval for domestic use of Movento. In vain.
Minor uses approval notice - https://www.campdenbri.co.uk/services/d ... ps2014.pdf

What it means - http://www.hse.gov.uk/pesticides/topics ... e/eamu.htm

Approved for use on vegetables too - http://www.hortweek.com/movento-approve ... le/1014802

Some product info - http://news.agropages.com/News/NewsDetail---1432.htm

Powder version for sale on Amazon - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Systemic-Insec ... B00SCVR7GO
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Re: Systemic insecticide for red spider mite

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FaeLLe wrote:
ragamala wrote:I have also searched for documentary confirmation regarding UK (or EU FWIW now) approval for domestic use of Movento. In vain.
Minor uses approval notice - https://www.campdenbri.co.uk/services/d ... ps2014.pdf

What it means - http://www.hse.gov.uk/pesticides/topics ... e/eamu.htm

Approved for use on vegetables too - http://www.hortweek.com/movento-approve ... le/1014802

Some product info - http://news.agropages.com/News/NewsDetail---1432.htm

Powder version for sale on Amazon - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Systemic-Insec ... B00SCVR7GO
None of the above give approval for domestic (garden) use. Movento is not approved for use by amateurs in the UK.

Movento is only approved in the UK for agricultural use on crops of broccoli/calabrese, brussels sprout, cabbage, cauliflower, collard, kale, lettuce and (through the minor uses notice above) hops.

All this is made clear in the HSE Pesticide databases.

It appears only Italy has approved its amateur use, which is why Bayer only market it in that country!
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Re: Systemic insecticide for red spider mite

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Tony R wrote: None of the above give approval for domestic (garden) use. Movento is not approved for use by amateurs in the UK.

Movento is only approved in the UK for agricultural use on crops of broccoli/calabrese, brussels sprout, cabbage, cauliflower, collard, kale, lettuce and (through the minor uses notice above) hops.

All this is made clear in the HSE Pesticide databases.

It appears only Italy has approved its amateur use, which is why Bayer only market it in that country!
Oops, what does minor uses approval in UK stand for...
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