Agave talk & pictures
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Re: Agave talk & pictures
Anyone got an idea for it's identity, I have had it over two years it's quite a slow grower
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Re: Agave talk & pictures
Hi Tina,
If I'm not mistaken, that's also A. salmiana Ferox, but Medio Picta. If have 3. My first has the heaviest MP variegation, and is extremely slow growing (more variegation = slower growing). My other 2 are pups from the below mother plant, pictured a year ago at a nursery here in Northern California really into Agave. This is my largest pup from the above plant, only 1/2 MP, and 1/2 Striata, which is growing very quickly, due to less variegation. It's got a pup too now, and looks to be sporting the regular MP of the cultivar. Best Regards,
Tom
If I'm not mistaken, that's also A. salmiana Ferox, but Medio Picta. If have 3. My first has the heaviest MP variegation, and is extremely slow growing (more variegation = slower growing). My other 2 are pups from the below mother plant, pictured a year ago at a nursery here in Northern California really into Agave. This is my largest pup from the above plant, only 1/2 MP, and 1/2 Striata, which is growing very quickly, due to less variegation. It's got a pup too now, and looks to be sporting the regular MP of the cultivar. Best Regards,
Tom
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Re: Agave talk & pictures
Here is another agave from my collection should show better colour as it gets more light
Isthmensis Rum runner and it has also got a small offset coming
Isthmensis Rum runner and it has also got a small offset coming
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Re: Agave talk & pictures
This is one of my newest Agave's (Agave Puepusorumm mediopicta) which has just started to grow some roots, should grow into a stunner
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Re: Agave talk & pictures
WOW, I want one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .
First time in ages one I haven't got
First time in ages one I haven't got
Tina
varied collection of succulents and cacti but I especially like Euphorbia's, Ariocarpus and variegated agaves.
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varied collection of succulents and cacti but I especially like Euphorbia's, Ariocarpus and variegated agaves.
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Re: Agave talk & pictures
How I have lost the label for this I cannot fathom, but I have. It is about 12cm across, and I already have two pups separated and planted. Can anyone suggest an ID please?
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Re: Agave talk & pictures
I strongly suspect that this is Agave xylonacantha. I have one. I got it as a cutting and did not pot it up for over a year, then soon after I did it started growing. It is now a very strong plant, not very big but with a lot of offsets. I have to contemplate repotting it at some time and I know it will grow some more and produce even more offsets. It is a very handsome plant and tough as old boots, be warned. I really like it.
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Re: Agave talk & pictures
It is indeed what is called Agave xylonacantha in the plant trade in Europe, but not 'real' xylonacantha, which is something different.
Here is 'real' Agave xylonacantha in habitat - olive green, very coarse texture, very open rosette, much larger at maturity:
The plant in question has been given the name Agave heteracantha in a paper published jointly by some Dutch agave experts but this seems to have gone largely un-noticed in the wider agave community.
Spines and rosettes - it is a very common mistake amongst USA agave collectors - even some experts - to mis-apply the name Agave salmiana var ferox. Those variegates are forms of Agave salmiana, not Agave salmiana var ferox. Agave salmiana var ferox is a particularly distinct clone of Agave salmiana that was first described from plants in a European collection. The clone persists via the ancient botanical gardens and looks nothing like your plants. The plant below is Agave salmiana var ferox:
Here is 'real' Agave xylonacantha in habitat - olive green, very coarse texture, very open rosette, much larger at maturity:
The plant in question has been given the name Agave heteracantha in a paper published jointly by some Dutch agave experts but this seems to have gone largely un-noticed in the wider agave community.
Spines and rosettes - it is a very common mistake amongst USA agave collectors - even some experts - to mis-apply the name Agave salmiana var ferox. Those variegates are forms of Agave salmiana, not Agave salmiana var ferox. Agave salmiana var ferox is a particularly distinct clone of Agave salmiana that was first described from plants in a European collection. The clone persists via the ancient botanical gardens and looks nothing like your plants. The plant below is Agave salmiana var ferox:
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Re: Agave talk & pictures
Having done a search on the web and a couple of recent books, I can see that this is Agave heteracantha. It is still a tough plant and I read of one report of it sitting in a pot on a roof in Holland all winter and surviving. I will adjust my label accordingly, again, I get so many wrong labels.
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Re: Agave talk & pictures
It is tough, Liz. I grew one outside from just a small plant to flowering over a period of a dozen years.