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Re: Second burgeri attempt

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:17 pm
by iann
C. burgeri is "sheathed" all year unless you make a special effort to peel it. In summer it is a dried dead white blob. In winter the fat translucent jelly is clearly visible under the dry outer layers of the onion, often green but will be red in good light.

Here's some natural ones and a peeled one in fat form, and
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Even when in peak growth and flowering, they would normally be protected by previous year's shells:
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By late spring, they look pretty bad:
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Re: Second burgeri attempt

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:48 pm
by cactuspip
If it is cultivation info for Conophytums you need there are definitely better sources.

Try Terry Smale's website for starters.

Re: Second burgeri attempt

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:56 pm
by ChrisR
Terry's cultivation page is on my website too......link below.

Re: Second burgeri attempt

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:23 pm
by Magi
Thanks everyone, I'll study the linked articles. Will be updating their status as I grow/kill them.

iann, those are nice photos, except for the brown raisin at the end :grin:

Re: Second burgeri attempt

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:35 pm
by Magi
Shortly after my last post I heeded the advice and commissioned an upheaval - a painstaking process that took me more than 2 hours.

I wasn't sure if they are going to survive the turmoil of such operation that I waited until today to update their status.

So far it seems to be paying off. During the days I placed them under artificial light to compensate the dim Canadian winter days, and each night I moved them to the windowsill to chill.

Two pieces of observation bother me:
1. No sign of first true leaves
2. No sign of sheathing

The original cotyledons just keep on getting fatter.

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Re: Second burgeri attempt

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:09 pm
by Diane
Magi wrote:
Two pieces of observation bother me:
1. No sign of first true leaves
2. No sign of sheathing

The original cotyledons just keep on getting fatter.

1. They don't make true leaves.
2. Sheathing usually occurs when they are dormant - from spring through summer.
Yes, they will just continue to get fatter!
They look fine, just as they should be.

Re: Second burgeri attempt

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:19 pm
by cactuspip
They are looking really good.

I would be more than pleased to have your pot of seedlings in MY greenhouse.
Congratulations on your success.
Good growing!

Re: Second burgeri attempt

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:40 pm
by Magi
Thank you very much Diane and cactuspip for the follow-up advice, although I would not check off the success box until I get the guys to flower.

Re: Second burgeri attempt

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:00 pm
by cactuspip
Don't hold your breath! It will be quite some time before they reach flowering size.

Even then I don't find them particularly free-flowering.

Re: Second burgeri attempt

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:38 pm
by Aiko
cactuspip wrote:Don't hold your breath! It will be quite some time before they reach flowering size.

Even then I don't find them particularly free-flowering.
My 2008 sown C. burgeri flowered for the first time in 2014, if I recall well.