purebred euphorbia obesa

[daniel82]

Just out of interest, does anyone have or know if it's even possible to get non hybrid E obesa and indeed E symmetrica. I don't know if any locality seed is ever available.

[RICHAUD]

contact Obesa nursery in Graaf Reinet http://www.obesanursery.com
Euphorbia obesa is growing near this town

[ChrisR]

There are a few succulents which are common in cultivation but rare or even unknown as documented habitat material. Euphorbia obesa is certainly one......others which immediately come to mind are Crassula sarcocaulis, Aloe variegata and Aloe aristata. There must be a few others. I suppose it's because they are common there's no commercial need or belief that collecting new material is necessary or profitable. Which in a way is a good thing......isn't one of the reasons we advocate introducing and propagating new discoveries in cultivation as soon as possible that it takes the pressure off further collecting from wild populations?

[daniel82]

Yes, I think it is a good thing once a species is very common in cultivation. I just wondered if the hybrids have become so common that the original species is effectively gone (in cultivation).

[RICHAUD]

collecting plants in the wild is because there isn't many plants in the wild
but collecting seeds yes

[ragamala]

collecting plants in the wild is because there isn't many plants in the wild
but collecting seeds yes

Hmmmmmm

[pvdw]

contact Obesa nursery in Graaf Reinet http://www.obesanursery.com
Euphorbia obesa is growing near this town

Been to Obesa nursery in July. No plants or seeds in stock at that time.

[RICHAUD]

the owner's son (now owner ?) for a very reasonable price guided us all day to see the local plants around Graaf Reinet and Euphorbia obesa is just a few kilometers from the town so he could watch the fruiting period and do a collect

ragamia why Hmmmmmm ?
you collect 20-30 seeds and 3 years after you collect seeds on these plants

[FaeLLe]

ragamia why Hmmmmmm ?
you collect 20-30 seeds and 3 years after you collect seeds on these plants

Well partly because if everyone takes seeds off plants in the wild then there wont be any new plants growing in the wild once the parents are dead!

[Apicra]

I.m.h.o.it is certainly not acceptable for anyone to collect seed of this endangered species from the veld, even local South Africans. See this SA Red List assessment: http://redlist.sanbi.org/species.php?species=574-4025
The "two locations continue to decline due to collection of wild individuals for horticultural purposes. The total population is estimated to be fewer than 500 mature individuals, with a number of small subpopulations consisting, on average, of about 30 mature individuals."

Under SA law, it is illegal to collect seed from endangered wild plants without complying with the conditions of a collecting permit.

Regards,
Derek Tribble