Ed Storms/Mesemb Growing Periods

[ragamala]

I bought a second-hand copy a couple of years ago of the Ed Storms "new" Growing the Mesembs. Inside it was a photocopied double-sided page on info on growing periods.

Was this part of the book? Or is it an unrelated leftover from the previous owner?

Any comments on content welcome too...

[el48tel]

As a very very new convert to mesembs, I know nothing about their cultivation, so this table is a welcome resource.
THANK YOU!

[Aiko]

I don't have it in mine. Looks like a typical seventies or eighties print. A print from a private printer, not from a printing press.

[conolady]

It's not in my copy of the book. It looks like a homemade guide gleaned from various publications, maybe MSG Bulletins, even someone's own observations. Like any such list, it's a useful guide for starting with mesembs, though I'd quarrel with some of watering periods for some genera. Observing your plants growing is the best guide, as ever.

[Tony R]

It is probably (possibly) a copy of the table produced by Eddy Harris many years ago, based on the table that appeared first in Haage's book Cacti and Succulents 1963, page 141.

I have Eddy's original somewhere, so I'll try to find it to compare.

Here is the Haage one:

[Tony R]

Well, I found (Eddy's) later version quite quickly, thanks to the excellent search function within Windows 10:

[el48tel]

............... Like any such list, it's a useful guide for starting with mesembs, though I'd quarrel with some of watering periods for some genera. Observing your plants growing is the best guide, as ever.

Agreed ---- but for a first timer ---- a useful starting point

[ragamala]

Many thanks for the replies, and especially to Tony for the "original" adapted versions. That was pretty much as I expected re source not being Ed Storms. Interesting the little extras you sometimes get with second hand books!

I should have maybe done more. I have a copy of the Haage book, but it never occurred to me to search my own library.

Interestingly this has also a table of flowering times of Cacti. Maybe that would be of some interest - when I find a minute or two I'll scan that and post in a different thread.

My first growing of succulents was influenced by books such as this. It would be interesting perhaps to have a review of literature and journals from 50 years ago and compare with modern accepted "knowledge" on cultivation. But a big task.

[Mike P]

I have a slightly different version of the chart obtained from Suzanne and have used it for several years.