Echeveria Agavoides..the real deal or marketing gimmick?

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Re: Echeveria Agavoides..the real deal or marketing gimmick?

Post by agavemad » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:09 pm

Beautiful plants.
I have to agree with Tina on the agave's also..... I have been a sucker a few times my worst was a bog standard agave Americana variegated, that had a load of spiel about where it had come from and how rare it was and how its variegation was so much different. Turns out its just a normal everyday plant that was slightly too pale and once in decent light turned out normal yellow variegation. I paid around £25 for that pup.
I now buy plants because I like the look of them :grin:
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Re: Echeveria Agavoides..the real deal or marketing gimmick?

Post by juster » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:41 pm

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This is quite a nice coloured one, E. frank reinelt, which is a hybrid of agavoides and colorata. I generally check the names on the International Crassulacea Network website, assume this would show which names are correctly registered?
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Re: Echeveria Agavoides..the real deal or marketing gimmick?

Post by Terry S. » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:58 am

There isn't a Registration authority for Echeveria, any volunteers? Incidentally, Agave has a mention in this thread and there is a Registration Authority for that: American Public Gardens Association based at the US National Arboretum.
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Re: Echeveria Agavoides..the real deal or marketing gimmick?

Post by WayneM » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:15 pm

Not grumbling this time. Just celebrating Agavoides!

Forgot to include Echeveria Agavoides Aquamarine.
Mine has grown into quite a beast, no pups as of yet.

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Pupwise only Lipstick seems to readily produce them. I guess other hybrids have to be very happy to do that, has anyone had experiences of Ebony, Romeo,etc producing offsets? I'm not sure I could ever chop one of plants to force them to offset.

I'm having a go at growing some from seed, and if my hybrids flower together once the temps are right, then perhaps I can try hybridizing?

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Re: Echeveria Agavoides..the real deal or marketing gimmick?

Post by Terry S. » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:30 am

Don't forget that most non-variegated echeverias can be propagated from stem leaves or from the bracts removed from inflorescences. Having said that, I have never tried E. agavoides, there are always exceptions to general principles.
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Re: Echeveria Agavoides..the real deal or marketing gimmick?

Post by MikeT » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:40 am

Terry S. wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:30 am
Don't forget that most non-variegated echeverias can be propagated from stem leaves or from the bracts removed from inflorescences. Having said that, I have never tried E. agavoides, there are always exceptions to general principles.
Agavoides is easy from stem leaves. I haven't tried flower stem bracts for this species - it's usually a good method because you don't damage the main rosette.
I suspect the gold glitter leaved E. agavoides on sale in garden centres at Christmas don't come true from leaf cuttings, but I've resisted buying any. :sad:
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Re: Echeveria Agavoides..the real deal or marketing gimmick?

Post by Tina » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:05 pm

Hi Wayne,
My large Ebony, has produced two pups naturally.
I love that green one
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