Adromischus help please

[wildedges]

I promised myself I wouldn't buy any more plants but I found these two tucked at the back of a display of fairly dull succulents at the garden centre. The one on the right looks like Cristatus to me but I've no idea about the other one. They were pretty much in the dark so they might colour up with a bit of sun now.

[Stuart]

Yes, Cristatus on the right and a Cooperi hybrid on the left.
Stuart

[wildedges]

That's great thanks. I didn't realise they hybridised.

[ChrisR]

Just wondering how/why you're so sure it's a cooperi hybrid Stuart?

[Stuart]

Chris, I gave one to DT and took his advice, it also means that it will now have a DT number!!
Stuart

[Tony R]

Chris, I gave one to DT and took his advice, it also means that it will now have a DT number!!
Stuart

I'd still be happier calling it Adromischus sp. DTnnnn or Adromischus cv. DTnnnn.
But then I'm sure you will sell many more propagations with its DTnnnn number.

[ChrisR]

I'd like to see a flower to be sure. Has more a look of triflorus in form IMO. With all due respect to Derek, having a DT accession number without any real provenance adds very little value or interest to what looks a pretty boring Adro.......again, IMO

[Stuart]

It looks better with a bit more direct sun and will be a bit more compact with dusky pink tints to the leaves. I think the Triflorus look is from being in poor light at a Garden Centre. I know an accession number doesn't mean much but people seem to like to buy plants with data though few realise there's a difference between an accession number and a collection data. I bought four really nice sized Turbinicarpus , for myself and not to sell, at a recent Cactus Mart, at a bargain £1 each because they had no data. (GC had a bargain tray, all at £1 with no data)

Stuart

[ChrisR]

I meant the leaf shape and overall form Stuart, not the colour. Let's see if DT adds his two penn'orth to this.

[KathyM]

I've also got a plant of the one on the left, I'd been wondering what it was. I hadn't considered it might be a hybrid. It seems to get sold under all sorts of names when it's not in mixed trays. This is how much colour mine has got in a greenhouse. It's nowhere near as bright as Adromischus cooperi.

Adromischus cooperi hybrid

This all maroon one is probably the most interesting Adromischus I've found in those trays of mixed plants in 5.5cm pots. The leaves were completely green when I got it, but it didn't have a spotty pattern in 2 different shades of green like an A. cooperi grown in poor light usually does so I suspected it would go all maroon, and it did. I thought it was pretty good for a plant from Wilkinsons.

maroon Adromischus cooperi