Carpobritus identification

[Andyh]

Can any one help...I thought that the cutting I took off a Tenby beach would be the yellow flowered carpobritus edulis but its now flowered and is a much nicer pink flowered species. On line theres several options but Im not narrowing it down. The leaves are 5 to 7 cm long grey green and often curved. Triangular in cross section. Flower about 6cm across. Any mesemb experts out there? Id read that edulis has invaded uk coastal areas...but this is clearly not edulis. Ive since seen edulis on Jersey and its very different.

[iann]

Carpobrotus edulis flowers can be yellow or pink, but smaller deep pink flowers may belong to C. chilensis. The two can form hybrid swarms, so don't get too hung up on the name. C. chilensis is overall smaller, especially the flowers, and considered less invasive.

[Andyh]

Thank you.

[jfabiao]

Just to make matters more confusing, there is another name attributed to the plants that occur in sand dunes in southern europe - Carpobrotus acinaciformis. I have no idea of the validity of such name or, if they are ideed different species, how to tell them apart. As Ian said, I woulnd't get too attached to a name.

Incidentally, there is one single place I can remember here in Portual where these plants form fruits and set seed, and they are indeed edible (although why would you want to eat them is another story...).

[el48tel]

There are two worrying aspects here.
1 Is it getting warmer so that Mediterranean plants can become established?
2 Escapees from gardens can cause havoc to existing environmental balance .. Knotweed being a classic example. We seem to be laissez faire in comparison to some countries.

[Terry S.]

Carpobrotus is a long-standing problem in some part of the UK. On the Lizard Peninsula in Cornawall it has been throttling much of the indigenous vegetation and measures have been taken to try and remove it. It is certainly known to be a difficult weed in this country.

[iann]

There are two worrying aspects here.
1 Is it getting warmer so that Mediterranean plants can become established?
2 Escapees from gardens can cause havoc to existing environmental balance .. Knotweed being a classic example. We seem to be laissez faire in comparison to some countries.

I don't think Carpobrotus would survive long in Leeds, but maybe could have got through last winter in a sheltered spot with good drainage. Filey, maybe, if we keep getting warm winters ...

[ragamala]

Escapees from gardens can cause havoc to existing environmental balance .. Knotweed being a classic example. We seem to be laissez faire in comparison to some countries.

Under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 (as amended) I understand it is an offence to plant or cause to grow in the wild plants listed on an invasive species schedule of the Act. This list includes Carpobrotus edulis.

This makes it rather questionable for Alan Titchmarsh to recommend C. edulis for beachside gardens here! -

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/ga ... tal-garden

[el48tel]

Escapees from gardens can cause havoc to existing environmental balance .. Knotweed being a classic example. We seem to be laissez faire in comparison to some countries.

Under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 (as amended) I understand it is an offence to plant or cause to grow in the wild plants listed on an invasive species schedule of the Act. This list includes Carpobrotus edulis.

This makes it rather questionable for Alan Titchmarsh to recommend C. edulis for beachside gardens here! -

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/ga ... tal-garden

Exactly