To cross, or not to cross?

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To cross, or not to cross?

Post by Julie » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:17 pm

As all you folks know ad nauseum, I have some E.obesa.

I also have a meloformis (Mel, hehe) who has today decided to pop out stigmas from what seemed to be sleeping winder buds that had not moved for a month. So she is a girl after all.. I suspected this as she had dead girl flowers and seed husks in her soil when I repotted her.

And since I have a boy obesa (little Y), should I try the obvious?

I'm wondering if they are similar enough to produce seeds, I guess eg. a very different sort of Euphorbia pollen would not be recognised by the ovaries as DNA...?

Has anyone here tried crossing the very succulent Euphorbias?

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Re: To cross, or not to cross?

Post by MikeT » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:27 pm

Julie

They'll cross easily, you'll get viable seed that you can grow next year. They reach flowering size in a few years. You can then cross the hybrids with either of the parents etc.....
I did grow some 1/4 meloformis 3/4 obesa's a few years ago, they looked like plain obesa's.
Like obesa, you need to watch out for the meloformis seedpods exploding their seeds everywhere

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Re: To cross, or not to cross?

Post by Phil_SK » Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:00 pm

If you do cross them you might want to consider how easy it will be to keep the seed separate when the pods pop and avoid a mixed seed of meloformis and the hybrid, assuming your meloformis has other seed pods on it.
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Re: To cross, or not to cross?

Post by Julie » Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:50 pm

So I'm not a pioneer then. :)

Phil - all females have caps to keep the seed. Each seed has a page in a log book with it's parentage, date of gathering and so on. So each new plant can be labelled correctly.

The thing to do now, is to find a way to mark seeds in a narrow tray, eg. a notch in one corner and a cocktail stick next to each seed, and a corresponding diagram.

This is of course assuming that the obesas. symms and mel are pure....

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Re: To cross, or not to cross?

Post by Julie » Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:10 pm

I didn't make that clear, now I've read it again.

The only boy is an obesa. The girls are 3 obesas and one mel. So all pods can only have one possible parentage... so long as it's recorded who was the mother. All seeds have mum and dad catalogued.



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