I bought these a little while back. Kind of a sampler to see if I could actually grow them, but alas they are nameless. Can anyone give me a hint or two before I hit the books ?
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Any Lithops experts out there ?
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Re: Any Lithops experts out there ?
I know nothing of lithops, only have two myself (for the same reason Trevor!), however the middle left one does look like my L. Julii Fullerii... I would definitely wait for someone *far* more knowledgeable to ID them though!!
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Re: Any Lithops experts out there ?
I am certainly not an expert on Lithops but this is what I think.There is a very strong chance others will think different.
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Re: Any Lithops experts out there ?
Trevor,
I would say they are as follows:
Top Row:
lesliei ssp lesliei var rubrobrunnea
lesliei
julii ssp julii
Middle Row:
hallii
lesliei acf albinica
lesliei
Bottom Row:
verruculosa
julii ssp julii
I would say they are as follows:
Top Row:
lesliei ssp lesliei var rubrobrunnea
lesliei
julii ssp julii
Middle Row:
hallii
lesliei acf albinica
lesliei
Bottom Row:
verruculosa
julii ssp julii
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Re: Any Lithops experts out there ?
L. lesliei, but unlikely to be Freds Redhead which is new and rare and possibly not even in Australia yet. Its a good strong red colour though, might be var. rubrobrunnea. Would be nice to see a closeup to check it isn't L. aucampiae which can have similar patterns and red colouring.
L. aucampiae on the one next to it.
L. hallii White Form is also rare and not even that pale, so probably not. I think this is L. julii ssp julii. They usually have a hint of dark markings at the fissure and I think I see those. Or if completely white with just faint translucent markings then it could be L. pseudotruncatella.
L. julii ssp fulleri, but I don't think it is var. rouxii.
A yellow L. lesliei, 'Albinica' is the most common.
L. lesliei.
Looks yellow so should be a cultivar. I think it is L. fulviceps 'Aurea', perhaps a little washed out in late summer. L. verruculosa has very distinctive small raised red dots on a dark patterned background. L. fulviceps has larger raised dark dots with small red markings between them, sometimes hard to see when they wrinkle but you should be able to tell the difference up close.
Looks very similar to the pale L. julii but I think this one is L. karasmontana. Maybe
I'm making assumptions that none of these are excessively rare.
L. aucampiae on the one next to it.
L. hallii White Form is also rare and not even that pale, so probably not. I think this is L. julii ssp julii. They usually have a hint of dark markings at the fissure and I think I see those. Or if completely white with just faint translucent markings then it could be L. pseudotruncatella.
L. julii ssp fulleri, but I don't think it is var. rouxii.
A yellow L. lesliei, 'Albinica' is the most common.
L. lesliei.
Looks yellow so should be a cultivar. I think it is L. fulviceps 'Aurea', perhaps a little washed out in late summer. L. verruculosa has very distinctive small raised red dots on a dark patterned background. L. fulviceps has larger raised dark dots with small red markings between them, sometimes hard to see when they wrinkle but you should be able to tell the difference up close.
Looks very similar to the pale L. julii but I think this one is L. karasmontana. Maybe
I'm making assumptions that none of these are excessively rare.
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Re: Any Lithops experts out there ?
I agree with Ian's suggested IDs except for:
> L. julii ssp fulleri, but I don't think it is var.
> rouxii
Or L.salicola maculate form?
> Looks very similar to the pale L. julii but I
> think this one is L. karasmontana. Maybe
Difficult to tell without a higher-resolution photo of the markings but I would have said L.pseudotruncatella. If it flowers next year, you will know! (karasmontana are white-flowered, pseudo... are yellow-flowered and early in the Lithops season.) Place your bets now...
Nice plants anyway, good colours.
> L. julii ssp fulleri, but I don't think it is var.
> rouxii
Or L.salicola maculate form?
> Looks very similar to the pale L. julii but I
> think this one is L. karasmontana. Maybe
Difficult to tell without a higher-resolution photo of the markings but I would have said L.pseudotruncatella. If it flowers next year, you will know! (karasmontana are white-flowered, pseudo... are yellow-flowered and early in the Lithops season.) Place your bets now...
Nice plants anyway, good colours.
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Re: Any Lithops experts out there ?
I've no issue with what everybody has said. It is often easier to judge a pan full as there is frequently quite a variation amongst the same batch of true seeds.
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Re: Any Lithops experts out there ?
Trevor, what a lovely selection of colours. Note to self - must get some more Lithops! Second note to self - no more plants, stop it!
Middle row right pot looks like an aucampiae to me as well. I'd be surprised if you got 8 Lithops and didn't get an aucampiae among them, they seem to be by far the most common over here in garden centres.
I have one tiny schwantesi and it looks nothing like any of yours, so you can cross that one off.
If the bottom right is a karasmontana, it's not ssp bella, as my bella has less fine patterns and is more "blobby".
I wonder - they all have their own "fingerprint" - do they grow very similar patterns every year, like stags grow very similar antlers? Assuming that the growing conditions are the same.
Middle row right pot looks like an aucampiae to me as well. I'd be surprised if you got 8 Lithops and didn't get an aucampiae among them, they seem to be by far the most common over here in garden centres.
I have one tiny schwantesi and it looks nothing like any of yours, so you can cross that one off.
If the bottom right is a karasmontana, it's not ssp bella, as my bella has less fine patterns and is more "blobby".
I wonder - they all have their own "fingerprint" - do they grow very similar patterns every year, like stags grow very similar antlers? Assuming that the growing conditions are the same.
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Re: Any Lithops experts out there ?
Thanks everyone for your help, I might try and post some close ups on the weekend ...
Trevor
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