Anacampseros (incl seed) for ID

[iann]

Here's my baby Anacampseros again. Not A. comptonii as labelled, but hopefully worthy of a name.

The seed (better picture now):
[img]http://nartowicz.users.btopenworld.com/ ... seros1.jpg[/img]

The plant:
[img]http://nartowicz.users.btopenworld.com/ ... seros2.jpg[/img]

The leaves are up to 10mm wide and only a little longer, which suggests A. telephiastrum, but it seems rather too hairy. Some of the lower leaves show some reddening of the lower surfaces but not strong. The seed shows signs of wings which again could be A. telephiastrum but I don't have the other species to compare with.

[Bill]

Can't help with the name Ian but it's very nice.

[Colin Walker]

[size=medium]Hi Ian,

Sorry, but I've not got enough info to give you a firm ID on this. I'm also about to leave for a short holiday, so have no time right now to delve into the literature. If I don't get back to you on this by the weekend, please give me a nudge 'cos I'd like to track the ID down, unless someone else comes up with the answer before I manage to![/size]

[Tom J]

Hi Ian,

I'm sure Derek will help you with this one.
If even Derek is not sure, you might contact Jacques van Thiel in the netherlands, MSG representative for his country.
He's the true expert of the genus and should be in a better position to id this plant.

Tom

[CactusChris]

I'll guess it might be retusus or rufescens - maybe??? LOL

Chris

[Maria J]

I echo Bill's comments!

[iann]

I have Rowley's book with its key and description of the species. There is little doubt that it is A. telephiastrum, A. retusus, or A. rufescens but I'm not sure which.

Here are some smaller seedlings, they are more hairy than the larger plants. These plants are 10mm-20mm across.
[img]http://nartowicz.users.btopenworld.com/ ... seros3.jpg[/img]

[Apicra]

Hi iann,

You're not going to like this ....

It's not Ananc. retusa - that has remarkable shaggy white seed.

Your seed with an inflated white outer integument layer (to act as a sail for wind distribution?) belongs to A. telephiastrum, lanceolata, marlothii or rufescens.

It's not A, telephiastum, that's big and chunky. I'm puzzled by the way your larger plant has it's leaves in probably eight vertical tiers.

The more you know, the more you know you don't know everything and I'm just not familiar with the seedling development of all taxa. I think this is one of the far eastern forms, which have been attributed to rufescens and marlothii by different authors, but probably will need a new name. Not illustrated in Rowley.

So I'm going to say they are still not old enough to identify yet, please post another photo when they start to flower in about six months. If I see a fat bud/flower, then go with marlothii, if narrow and pointed, that's like rufescens.

You never get a straight answer! My money is on rufescens ...

Best wishes,
Derek Tribble,
London UK

[iann]

A. rufescens is very believable. Perhaps that plant has excessively compact growth from being under lights all winter. Here is one which has not been under the lights. Might be a more normal form, might just be etiolated.

[img]http://nartowicz.users.btopenworld.com/ ... seros4.jpg[/img]

[CactusChris]

Hi Derek,
Venturing into dangerous water here but I think the leaves on marlothi are very different even at a young age, they are more elongated and rounded at the tips if I remember correctly.

Best regards

Chris