I wouldn't really class Boophane disticha as a caudex, more a bulb above ground, but if you include that I would suggest Tylecodon paniculata for its thick trunk, then in the mesembryanthemaceae Mestoklema tuberous, M.bulbosum and various Trichodiadema - These mesembs have swollen roots so need to be raised when repotting.
Calibanus id a very easy plant as has been suggested, but I wouldn't grow it in a shallow tray or bowl until it had attained a decent size. They like plenty of water during the summer months and encouraging a good root system will give good growth on the caudex. A think a tray will not give a consistent environment for optimum growth.
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Re: Caudex plants (for starters) and other caudex questions.
Thanks Brian.
Boophane is already ordered, I'll find it a beautifull architectural plant.
It isn't a real caudex in my opinion too, but still a great plant.
Calibanus will come later.
Boophane is already ordered, I'll find it a beautifull architectural plant.
It isn't a real caudex in my opinion too, but still a great plant.
Calibanus will come later.
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Re: Caudex plants (for starters) and other caudex questions.
This is also an interesting thread to read: http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/266/#bphyllonemus wrote:Hello all,
I'm opening this topic because I'm realy interested in Caudex plants and because Im a beginner I have a lot to learn.
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Looks like a great article, I saved it and gonna read it this afternoon after work, thanks.Aiko wrote: This is also an interesting thread to read: http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/266/#b
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Re: Caudex plants (for starters) and other caudex questions.
phyllonemus wrote:Thanks Brian.
Boophane is already ordered, I'll find it a beautifull architectural plant.
It isn't a real caudex in my opinion too, but still a great plant.
Don't get me wrong, yes I agree. I have two, a winter grower and a summer grower. The winter grower flowered for the second time this summer - hence my new avatar!
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Re: Caudex plants (for starters) and other caudex questions.
So I can call you a Boophone expert .BrianMc wrote: Don't get me wrong, yes I agree. I have two, a winter grower and a summer grower. The winter grower flowered for the second time this summer - hence my new avatar!
I don't know if my ordered Boophone is a summer or winter grower.
It is almost winter now and my plants are coming next tuesday.
Is it easy to see weather it is a summer or winter grower ?
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Re: Caudex plants (for starters) and other caudex questions.
You can call me that if you wish I would not call myself that.phyllonemus wrote: So I can call you a Boophone expert .
I don't know if my ordered Boophone is a summer or winter grower.
It is almost winter now and my plants are coming next tuesday.
Is it easy to see weather it is a summer or winter grower ?
I have had my winter grower since 2000 and I haven't killed it! It has now flowered twice.
The summer grower I acquired about 5 years ago - needs to be repotted into a bigger pot. No flower yet.
If your plant is producing new leaves now and has been sourced in the northern hemisphere it is most probably a winter grower.
If its leaves are old or yellowing, again from a northern source it is most probably a summer grower.
Having said that…. on occasions plants will keep their leaves for 18months before finally going dormant - both my plants have done this, once each. In habitat this species is very wide spread and occurs in both summer and winter rainfall areas, so I assume there will be plants that inhabit areas on the fringe of both, which could experience both or either depending on the year.
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Re: Caudex plants (for starters) and other caudex questions.
heres a ficus palmeri picture to keep you going until your order arrives.
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I never said restrict all plants just showing what I had noticed with psedubombax, boophane for me does better in a large planter than individual pots- is this right that it is extremely toxic ?,
My calibanus has a nice large pot which goes out in the garden for the summer- likes lots of water when in growth.
What's meant by "pachycaul" ? more pachycaul than caudiciforms so if you restrict the root area it keeps them more compact with a caudex than allowing them to become more bottle shaped with a trunk
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the roots spread very wide along the base of the pan which is only 7-8cm deep. The problem will be if I repot them as I may have to trim/cut the roots to get them into a normal width pot.see which direction the roots are growing in ?
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I never said restrict all plants just showing what I had noticed with psedubombax, boophane for me does better in a large planter than individual pots- is this right that it is extremely toxic ?,
My calibanus has a nice large pot which goes out in the garden for the summer- likes lots of water when in growth.
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Re: Caudex plants (for starters) and other caudex questions.
Pachycaul normally means plants with a thickened trunk(like baobabs) whereas caudiciform means an enlarged caudex at the base(sometimes undergound) that the stems grow out of. There's quite a few species that don't clearly fit into one or the other category though.
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Re: Caudex plants (for starters) and other caudex questions.
The ordered plants are send this morning and will be delivered tomorrow.
I've got the message that the Boophone disticha has rejected his leaves before sending and will be dormant when delivered.
Should I water this plant during the dormancy when it's placed in a living room ?
The Ficus abutilifolia and Fockea edulis are send with leaves.
I've got the message that the Boophone disticha has rejected his leaves before sending and will be dormant when delivered.
Should I water this plant during the dormancy when it's placed in a living room ?
The Ficus abutilifolia and Fockea edulis are send with leaves.
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