I have seen the agave for sale but I don't thing its agave parryi ,I have also seen the same plant as agave isthmensis
I an interested to see what other people think.
agave Tuxedo Kamen
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Re: agave Tuxedo Kamen
There are now so many of these variegated cultivars that we'll probably never know from which natural species they originated.chrisupson65 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:09 pm I have seen the agave for sale but I don't thing its agave parryi ,I have also seen the same plant as agave isthmensis
I an interested to see what other people think.
Tina, have you got this and have you any comments?
BTW it's a handsome beast though, so if given a cutting I wouldn't say no.
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Re: agave Tuxedo Kamen
Hi Chris & Colin,
I have it under parryi v parryi this was a plant from Renny Wong many years ago but is that an invalid name as it was with parryi patoni, potatorum would be a bigger plant, isthmensis could be a maybe I suppose.
As Colin says with all the variegated plants it is a bit of a nightmare as they are normally a cultivated mutation unless you know the original plant its difficult.
Many of my variegated agaves are sold as seen with no ID for them.
I'm sure you would like one Colin these are expensive plants, the colours are amazing.
I have it under parryi v parryi this was a plant from Renny Wong many years ago but is that an invalid name as it was with parryi patoni, potatorum would be a bigger plant, isthmensis could be a maybe I suppose.
As Colin says with all the variegated plants it is a bit of a nightmare as they are normally a cultivated mutation unless you know the original plant its difficult.
Many of my variegated agaves are sold as seen with no ID for them.
I'm sure you would like one Colin these are expensive plants, the colours are amazing.
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Re: agave Tuxedo Kamen
My pocket money doesn't run to the kinds of prices these variegates go for. I stick with species with data where possible. Much better on the bank balance.
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Re: agave Tuxedo Kamen
Thanks for your comments, a few years ago I would have bought one but some of my rarer plants have flowered and no offsets so I have stopped buy agaves that are over priced .
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Re: agave Tuxedo Kamen
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I have found the original text from when I first won my plant, originally from California.
If you have or buy rare/special plant maybe you need to think about propagating them & not waiting for nature, I know its a very British thing to just grow our plants but some of the specialised agave collectors abroad won't sell only swap so the only way I can get certain plants is to get creative with the knife.
Its always good to have spares for swaps or sales.
This is from when I cut my plant I waited until it was a good size, cut off the top which rooted down & produced 3 or 4 offsets, it still takes quite a few years ( about 3/4) as I don't swap until they are a decent & safe size to survive transport but I managed to get a good swap with one of the Dutch collectors so it was worth it for me.
After the cut Offsets growing well
I have found the original text from when I first won my plant, originally from California.
ChrisThis plant was propagated vegetatively from one normal (green) parryi v. parryi that had a few thin white stripes in 3 of the bottom leaves. That green plant was cut and one white plant was resulted from it 9 yrs ago. The plant offered is one of the offsets from that original plant. Last picture shows the remaining part of the original normal (green) plant where this clone was produced from.
Many people had asked why this plant does not have the typical parryi v parryi form. That is because it is a very heavily reverse variegate, so the growth speed differs and the culture given is also different. I grow this under some shade to protect the variegation so the form is more loose compared to a typical parryi v parryi.
If you have or buy rare/special plant maybe you need to think about propagating them & not waiting for nature, I know its a very British thing to just grow our plants but some of the specialised agave collectors abroad won't sell only swap so the only way I can get certain plants is to get creative with the knife.
Its always good to have spares for swaps or sales.
This is from when I cut my plant I waited until it was a good size, cut off the top which rooted down & produced 3 or 4 offsets, it still takes quite a few years ( about 3/4) as I don't swap until they are a decent & safe size to survive transport but I managed to get a good swap with one of the Dutch collectors so it was worth it for me.
After the cut Offsets growing well
Tina
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