Echeveria & hybrid ID help

[Skribbane]

Hi again, spent some time in the rather warm greenhouse getting some tags sorted out. I focused on my Echeveria (and similar) section and I've tried to identify some of the no/faded tags.

Any corrections or agreement would be great! Thank you

Jennifer

[edds]

I'll have a go but I'm by no means an expert and there are a lot of similar species and hybrids to muddy the waters.

1. E.elegans
2. Possibly E.x bombycina, I don't know this hybrid
3. ?
4. Possibly - this is now included in E.elegans
5. 'Black Prince' or E.affinis (sometimes called Black Knight)
6. ?
7. Pachyphytum compactum
8. Pachyveria
9. Possibly E.secunda?
10. E.lilacina
11. E.colorata
12. E.pulvinata v. frigida
13. ?
14. E.subsessilis? Graptoveria?
15. E.agavoides of some description
16. E.elegans?
17. ?

[juster]

I think the first one is probably E. pulidonis, you will know when the flowers open as pulidonis has yellow flowers. The second one is E. bombycina, which I've grown for years, a nice hybrid between E. pulvinata and E. setosa. I don't recognise all of the others, definitely E. lilacina is correct. If you haven't found it, the website of the International Crassulaceae Network is a good reference point. Unfortunately there are so many hybrids that identification becomes difficult. Nice plants!

[ralphrmartin]

4 E. albicans
7 P. compactum
8 P. hookeri ? (send a picture of the flower later. Pachyphytum flowers look rather different to Pachyveria flowers)
10 E. lilacina
11 E. colorata
12 E. pulvinata 'Frosty' or E. leucotricha. What colour are the flowers? If red, leucotricha.
15 E. agavoides 'Red Edge' ('Lipstick' is a commercial name for this)
17 might be E. x gilva 'Red'

unless of course they are hybrids...

This is a vry good site for identifying your Crassula family plants:
http://www.crassulaceae.ch/

[Skribbane]

Great stuff, thank you! I'm glad I seem to have correctly identified at least some of them. The flowers are coming along on the Paychphytum/Pachyveria so I'll hopefully have a pic within the week.

That site looks excellent, thank you for pointing it out to me. Going to get stuck in with researching my collection!

[Skribbane]

Hiya, the flowers have started to open now on the ?Pachyphytum/Pachyveria, if that helps with ID!

[edds]

I'd say that's a Pachyveria, possibly x Pachyveria glauca

[BrianMc]

1. Not pulidonis. If flowers are yellow it is a pulidonis hybrid
2. X 'Doris Taylor' ?
3. ?
4. Could be albicans - syn elegans
5. 'Black Prince' or E.affinis
6. Hybrid, possibly purpusorum and/or derenbergii genes
7. Pachyphytum compactum
8. possibly Pachyveria glauca
9. Hybrid, possibly Derenceana (see International Crassulacean Network)
10. E.lilacina
11. E.colorata
12. E.pulvinata v. frigida formerly known as cv Frosty
13. ? Looks like a hybrid I made between E.difractens and E.agavoides (but this is not one of mine)
14. ?
15. E.agavoides cultivar, could be 'Red Edge'
16. hybrid?
17. hybrid, agavoides and pulidonis genes

[Suculentia]

My guesses are:

1- Echeveria 'Orion'
2- Echeveria 'Bombycina'
3- Graptoveria 'Opalina'
4- Echeveria elegans albicans
5- Echeveria 'Black Prince'
6- Echeveria 'Fabiola'
7- Pachyphytum compactum
8- Pachyveria 'Glauca'
9- Echeveria 'Lola'
10- Echeveria lilacina
11- Echeveria chihuahuaensis
12- Echeveria pulvinata frigida
13- Echeveria 'Rubella'
14- Graptoveria 'Titubans'
15- Echeveria 'Red Edge'
16- Graptoveria 'Titubans'
17- Echeveria 'Christmas'. (agavoides x pulidonis)