Not Secure

[ralphrmartin]

Without being too technical, http and https are two different protocols for transferring data. The latter encrypts things, while the former does not. A web server can be set up to use either or both protocols, and to send the same or different data for http and https connections.

Google says that data transferred by http is not secure, because, as it is not encrypted, anyone "listening in" can capture anything going backwards and forwards that you type in, or that the site sends to you - like passwords, credit card details and so forth.

My webserver, for example lets you connect by http or https - but if you connect via the former, it redirects you automatically to connect via the latter - to ensure everything is secure.

[Terry S.]

I have certainly learnt something with respect to the difference between http and https. Now here's another question for you techies: why do I get the old banner when going into the website using Chrome but the new garish one if I go in using Explorer?

[ragamala]

I have certainly learnt something with respect to the difference between http and https. Now here's another question for you techies: why do I get the old banner when going into the website using Chrome but the new garish one if I go in using Explorer?

I get the same, but I think in this case it is because I have never used Internet Explorer to access the forum site. This was the same when I used http and later https.

This leads me to think it's simply a difference explained by a caching fact of life. Clear the cache on Chrome and you will probably get the new logo banner next time. I am not for reasons aforesaid going to try that!

I am glad to see I am not alone in having reservations about the new banner, although you are more discreet than I, Terry.

[rodsmith]

I have certainly learnt something with respect to the difference between http and https. Now here's another question for you techies: why do I get the old banner when going into the website using Chrome but the new garish one if I go in using Explorer?

I get the same, but I think in this case it is because I have never used Internet Explorer to access the forum site. This was the same when I used http and later https.

This leads me to think it's simply a difference explained by a caching fact of life. Clear the cache on Chrome and you will probably get the new logo banner next time. I am not for reasons aforesaid going to try that!

I am glad to see I am not alone in having reservations about the new banner, although you are more discreet than I, Terry.

I cleared my cache on Chrome and now get the new logo banner, which I too would rather see complete and not half-obscured by a grey haze.

[Herts Mike]

Totally agree with you Rod and "let's grow together" sounds like some awful religious text.

[agavedave]

Regarding old/new banners it will be what is stored in your browser cache.

In most browsers shift+F5 (hold the shift key down and press F5) should force a refresh of the page ignoring what is already cached.

I had a similar issue on my web site when I uploaded a new pdf, users were still seeing the link to the old one until they did shift+F5

Regards
dave.

[ralphrmartin]

Totally agree with you Rod and "let's grow together" sounds like some awful religious text.

I'm big enough already, thanks...

[Stuart]

I quite liked the old one that said 'Succulent Plantlife', nobody likes changes, just wait until the new website goes live for everyone to see.
Stuart

[ragamala]

nobody likes changes

Not sure about that. Many I am sure might agree with me that change is not only inevitable but can be welcome, if it is positive, change for the better.

In this field of website design and implementation I hope, indeed, that the long awaited new website matches expectations, and those who are test driving at the moment have their opinions fully taken into account when we see the final version (should we live that long ;-) )

What I learned over many years of working in the computer and internet, + advertising and promotional industry is that change is not always positive. Newer computer and design professionals look at new techniques that are available, and want to employ them regardless sometimes of the effect. Often older commissioners of website design are guided more by the advice of these professionals than by their own nous and wisdom hopefully bestowed by age.

I am sure the new website has cost a lot of money, as it has been so long in the making and presumably is not designed by amateurs. I am concerned that it turns out to be effective. If you, Stuart, have some information to reassure us on this I would be grateful.

It is a pity this thread is on the open Greenhouse board rather than society business.

[ralphrmartin]

nobody likes changes

I once got sent on a course about "Managing Innovation". It all went downhill when we were asked to say what the first thing was that came into our heads when we thought about innovation. I replied that "Innovation" was a headache, and that I look forward to managing it, in the sense of controlling it, and indeed preventing it, particularly where it was unnecessary, and just change for the sake of change. Needless to say, that didn't go down well in a course meant to promote innovation.