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- BrianMc
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I ordered Echinocereus dasyacanthus SB907 (Presidio Co., Tex.) from the 2013 BCSS seed list and sowed in february 2014. Seeds germinated and I was happy with the results. However, last year as the seedlings developed they appeared to have tubercles, which were way too pronounced for an Echinocereus so I began to think they may be Mammillaria. As I didn't order or sow any Mammillaria it is not a case of swapped labels. The seedlings are coming up to two years old and I checked the seed list for 2013. I am wondering if they could possibly be Escobaria (two species were listed that year) I would love to here fom any Mamm/Escobaria experts out there.
Especially interested in Mesembs. small Aloes and South African miniatures and bulbs.
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Hi Brian,
You will probably have to wait for one of them to flower, but I would rule out Mammillaria on the basis that it is seed which is probably close alphabetically to Echinocereus, Escobaria is not that far away, neither is Echinomastus, but you have kept most of them by the look of it and would you have done if they were the latter?
Time will tell.
Best wishes, Suzanne
You will probably have to wait for one of them to flower, but I would rule out Mammillaria on the basis that it is seed which is probably close alphabetically to Echinocereus, Escobaria is not that far away, neither is Echinomastus, but you have kept most of them by the look of it and would you have done if they were the latter?
Time will tell.
Best wishes, Suzanne
- ralphrmartin
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Escobaria vivipara perhaps?
Ralph Martin
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Members visiting the Llyn Peninsula are welcome to visit my collection.
Swaps and sales at https://www.rrm.me.uk/Cacti/forsale.php
My Field Number Database is at https://www.fieldnos.bcss.org.uk
- BrianMc
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Thanks Suzanne and Ralph.
It looks like I'll just have to be patient.
Any suggestions as to how patient I will need to be...ie. at what age do Escobaria start flowering?
It looks like I'll just have to be patient.
Any suggestions as to how patient I will need to be...ie. at what age do Escobaria start flowering?
Especially interested in Mesembs. small Aloes and South African miniatures and bulbs.
Keen propagator and compulsive 'tickler'!
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- ralphrmartin
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Not sure, sorry, but quite young. 3 years perhaps? Even 2?
Ralph Martin
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Members visiting the Llyn Peninsula are welcome to visit my collection.
Swaps and sales at https://www.rrm.me.uk/Cacti/forsale.php
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https://www.rrm.me.uk/Cacti/cacti.html
Members visiting the Llyn Peninsula are welcome to visit my collection.
Swaps and sales at https://www.rrm.me.uk/Cacti/forsale.php
My Field Number Database is at https://www.fieldnos.bcss.org.uk
- iann
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Echinocereus dasyacanthus:
Escobaria dasyacantha:
Doesn't look like either of these.Cheshire, UK
- MikeT
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If there were some hooked centrals, I'd suggest Mammillaria zeilmanniana, but from the photo it looks as if all the centrals as straight
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Looks to me like Turbinicarpus ( Gymnocactus ) horripilus seedlings.
- BrianMc
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Well the first of these seedlings is now in flower and judging by the hairy petals I think I can confirm that this is an Escobaria.
Of the three taxa of Escobaria listed that year
http://society.bcss.org.uk/index.php/se ... -2014.html
I think E.zilziana is the best match. Can anyone confirm this please?
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Of the three taxa of Escobaria listed that year
http://society.bcss.org.uk/index.php/se ... -2014.html
I think E.zilziana is the best match. Can anyone confirm this please?
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Especially interested in Mesembs. small Aloes and South African miniatures and bulbs.
Keen propagator and compulsive 'tickler'!
Instagram #myscottishgreenhouse
Keen propagator and compulsive 'tickler'!
Instagram #myscottishgreenhouse
- BrianMc
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......?
...in that case, is there anyone on this forum that successfully grew Escobaria zilziana from the 2013 BCSS Seed list?
...in that case, is there anyone on this forum that successfully grew Escobaria zilziana from the 2013 BCSS Seed list?
Especially interested in Mesembs. small Aloes and South African miniatures and bulbs.
Keen propagator and compulsive 'tickler'!
Instagram #myscottishgreenhouse
Keen propagator and compulsive 'tickler'!
Instagram #myscottishgreenhouse