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Soil mixes

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:47 pm
by dazzy2000
Hi I'm 3 years into growing cactus's and succulents and starting to get a great collection. I currently use a mix of 1x JI No2, 1x Silver sand and 1x cat litter. I would like to ask if this is a good combination and what is everyone else using.
Thanks

Re: Soil mixes

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:02 pm
by Phil_SK
Hi, I've moved your thread as it's very much on topic. :)

Re: Soil mixes

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:04 pm
by MikeDom
Hi, I would substitute sharp sand for the silver sand, as the silver sand is too fine and reduces aeration in the soil. Otherwise your mix is fine.

Re: Soil mixes

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:31 pm
by dazzy2000
Thanks for the replies. Would the mix be suitable for all cactus and succulents or does it need tweeking for different types.

Re: Soil mixes

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:35 am
by Aiko
dazzy2000 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:31 pm Thanks for the replies. Would the mix be suitable for all cactus and succulents or does it need tweeking for different types.
Tweaking certainly can benefit some species, but if you don't know which species, I would not bother much. Knowing when and when not to water is much more important!

Re: Soil mixes

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:23 am
by Terry S.
Dazzy, if that recipe is working for you then stick to it. I just tend to use a mixture of John Innes No. 3 and a coarse granite grit (particle size averaging 4mm) that is available under several brand names. The tweaking is to use about 2:1 JI/grit for easy growing plants such as Notocactus or Echinopsis, but adjusting to 1:1 for trickier plants such as Ariocarpus, Haworthia and all the winter-growers. I only use a fine grit for seed raising and rooting cuttings.

The tricky part is finding a good brand of John Innes compost! I suspect that is why some people are migrating to the use of purely mineral media such as moler or pumice.

Re: Soil mixes

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:36 pm
by dazzy2000
Thank you for all your advice. I often hear about grit, is this available from garden centres and a special type. I have come across the chicken grit on Ebay. Is this the same type that everyone is using?

Re: Soil mixes

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:08 pm
by MalcolmP2
dazzy2000 wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:36 pm Thank you for all your advice. I often hear about grit, is this available from garden centres and a special type. I have come across the chicken grit on Ebay. Is this the same type that everyone is using?
You will find grit suitable for potting mixes in garden centres, usually labeled " Horticultural Grit" or similar.

Avoid the chicken stuff unless you take care to get a particular kind - there are basically two types, a hard grit such as flint etc which is ok for potting (it is insoluble, and the chicken use it in their gizzard for grinding the food).
The second type contains calcium, soft and soluble for making the eggshells and is not generally suitable for potting composts (ok for plants that grow in chalk conditions though !)
General purpose chicken grit [edit : Oh! does that make 3 types :) ] contains a mix of both, so best avoided.

My local garden centre has several types and grades of horticultural grit including Cornish granite, like Terry S mentions.

Re: Soil mixes

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:16 am
by Terry S.
I use "Horticultural Coarse grit" under the Arthur Bowers label. But I have also seen it under the Silvaperl and Westland brand names. I actually get both my JI and Grit from the local Allotment Society but you should be able to get the coarse grit from most garden centres at about £4 for a 25kg bag.

I note that you are in Birmingham, so I suggest you investigate Ashwood Nursery which is not far from Stourbridge. They have a good range of compost ingredients but most interestingly, they have their own brand of JI that they claim is made to the original formula. Birmingham Branch members might be able to tell you more about it. I would certainly be trying it if I lived in the area.

Re: Soil mixes

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:46 am
by Tony R
Terry S. wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:16 am I use "Horticultural Coarse grit" under the Arthur Bowers label. But I have also seen it under the Silvaperl and Westland brand names. I actually get both my JI and Grit from the local Allotment Society but you should be able to get the coarse grit from most garden centres at about £4 for a 25kg bag. Well graded and little dust.
Kelkay also has a good range of grits, now marketed as the 'Royal Horticultural Society Gardeners Collection', similar price, becoming available in many good garden centres down here:

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