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Re: EU Plant Passport Scheme

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MatDz wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:36 pm ...
With the current Brexit deal in scope, is this still the case?
As far as I know there has been little or new info on this since early in 2920. Brexit considerations don,t change previous DEFRA/APHA guidance which was vague at best. The main change has been new format of passport, eg dropping the EU flag!

If you are concerned on your own account, just ask yourself if you consider yourself a professional seller or regularly sell plants for profit, or profits that would be of a scale to interest HMRC. If you don,t, it,s highly unlikely DEFRA would be interested in you.
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ragamala wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 7:07 pm
MatDz wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:36 pm ...
With the current Brexit deal in scope, is this still the case?
As far as I know there has been little or new info on this since early in 2920. Brexit considerations don,t change previous DEFRA/APHA guidance which was vague at best. The main change has been new format of passport, eg dropping the EU flag!

If you are concerned on your own account, just ask yourself if you consider yourself a professional seller or regularly sell plants for profit, or profits that would be of a scale to interest HMRC. If you don,t, it,s highly unlikely DEFRA would be interested in you.
I don't think I can tick any of the checkboxes, but the updated link no longer refers to (I assume it did) professional or amateur operators when talking about plant passports, that's what worries me most.
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https://www.gov.uk/guidance/issuing-pla ... t-passport

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MatDz wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:34 pm
I don't think I can tick any of the checkboxes, but the updated link no longer refers to (I assume it did) professional or amateur operators when talking about plant passports, that's what worries me most.
Mat I think your regard for trying to do what's right is commendable, but my personal view, after chasing the information available, is that nothing has changed with regard to need for registration to issue plant passports, when that document amateurs.pdf was published by Defra I think in July 2020, after they promised to provide further guidance earlier in the year. I am pretty sure that was their last word.

I would not expect a revision document (the new guidance issued regarding Brexit changes) on specific new changes to repeat all the information on the basic outline of the scheme. The passport scheme has been in force for a while now - over a year -and I am sure any changes as to requirements for registration would have been detailed in new guidance documents eg "Issue plant passports to move regulated plant material in Great Britain" revised and dated 31st Dec.

In my personal view it remains the case, even with Brexit, that if I am not "professionally" involved in plant growing and sales and any such selling, whether direct or remote, is minor, irregular and ancillary to a hobby, not backed up by a regular plant list or sales web site etc, I am outside the scope of passports. There is quite a lot of further government advice, explaining further consequences of Brexit, but none of it changing what I've said. EU plant passports are no longer valid in the UK, for example, but GB plant passports will be acceptable in the EU for the first half of next year.
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I registered for a Plant Passport in November but haven't started selling online yet. I had a call from someone the other day to say they need to inspect my plants.

I asked about the cost as was worried after reading that travel time could be included.

Apparently they don't charge if they say they want to inspect, only if you request a visit.

Hopefully this may help anyone who was worried about applying and having to pay for a visit.

I won't be selling yet so he will be phoning me at the end of January to arrange a visit.
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That is very helpful Tracy, because there is conflicting information about Passport registration not costing anything or costing a packet. It obviously depends on who initiates the inspection.

However, on this basis why should anyone request an inspection?
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I agree. Thank you Tracey for passing on the information. First hand experience is better than much of the second-guessing we have seen.
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Thanks Tracey, for this interesting information. Please do keep us updated on what happens...
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I registered to issue plant passports last year so that we could sell our seedlings by mail order. The initial inspection was carried out free of charge.

As we are only producing a small number of plants which are raised from seed, it was agreed that we would only be inspected once a year. They will be charging for the yearly inspections. We will find out in the summer, how much this will be.

Information given does seem to vary from one inspector to another.
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Early last year (in time for the planned South East Cactus Mart in Swalecliffe) I have officially registered with APHA as plants seller. It was for free. I made enquiries at the same about plants passport and even had a telephone chat with my local inspector and I was told that I would be subject to the required fees from the outset. It was £150 plus costs.

It seems that different areas use their discretion in a different way.
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