You will need to complete this form if you are professionally involved in planting, producing, breeding, moving, storing, dispatching or processing of plants or plant products.
From Bill's OP
Q. Do amateurs and plant societies need plant passports when selling spare or surplus plants via distance selling methods such as ebay?
A. If you are planning to sell plants via the internet you will need to be registered for Plant passporting. You can find more information here:
I think a clarification is needed from the source specifically asking does this apply to people who are NOT selling as a business. The answer to me reads as a stock answer, possibly covering the intent to sell to make a profit, i.e. as a business.
Plant Passports are not applicable to face to face retail sales of any form whether selling as a hobbiest, society or a professional, they are applicable to any distance selling transactions regardless of who the seller is, the two methods s of selling are treated separately for the regulations, so are not contradictory.
They are not applicable to to plants you give away, as far as I can see as this about trading in plants.
As far as planted out this is what the Horticultural Trade journal has to to say which seems pretty clear:
The requirement to have a plant passport will apply to all plants intended to be planted out, replanted or remain planted. Everything that we now call cultivation material falls under this definition, as well as all pot, bedding and container plants 'for consumption'.
Can I repeat the original post is not what I say, it is direct quotes from APHA.
Chris L wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:58 pm
Do you need one if you are giving plants away for free?
Bill wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:27 pm
Plant Passports are not applicable to face to face retail sales of any form whether selling as a hobbiest, society or a professional, they are applicable to any distance selling transactions regardless of who the seller is, the two methods s of selling are treated separately for the regulations, so are not contradictory.
They are not applicable to to plants you give away, as far as I can see as this about trading in plants.
As far as planted out this is what the Horticultural Trade journal has to to say which seems pretty clear:
The requirement to have a plant passport will apply to all plants intended to be planted out, replanted or remain planted. Everything that we now call cultivation material falls under this definition, as well as all pot, bedding and container plants 'for consumption'.
Can I repeat the original post is not what I say, it is direct quotes from APHA.
So I will be alright selling plant pots and giving plants away free with them.
How many people that sell plants (not just C&S) on eBay and Facebook are going to sign up for this? Who wants a government inspector coming round to their house to check on the plants?
How many people are going to actually know about this change?
You will need to complete this form if you are professionally involved in planting, producing, breeding, moving, storing, dispatching or processing of plants or plant products.
From Bill's OP
Q. Do amateurs and plant societies need plant passports when selling spare or surplus plants via distance selling methods such as ebay?
A. If you are planning to sell plants via the internet you will need to be registered for Plant passporting. You can find more information here:
I think a clarification is needed from the source specifically asking does this apply to people who are NOT selling as a business. The answer to me reads as a stock answer, possibly covering the intent to sell to make a profit, i.e. as a business.
I have been talking to several others who have made similar enquires of APHA and we all agree the APHA say there are no exemptions from the distance selling part of the regulations for anyone. The fact I asked about amateurs and hobbiests selling spare or surplus was fairly clear what I was talking about.
Chris L wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:39 pm So I will be alright selling plant pots and giving plants away free with them.
How many people that sell plants (not just C&S) on eBay and Facebook are going to sign up for this? Who wants a government inspector coming round to their house to check on the plants?
How many people are going to actually know about this change?
Might work
Not many, how many will get done for it? Well that depends, its an easy catch, all the inspectors need to do is order a plant, no registration, no passport and you're nicked.
Well its being talked about in many of the bigger plant groups on FB, so I would imagine if you were a 'Professional' amateur who sells a lot of plants then you are going to know,.
I've emailed them and asked for a definitive link to the legislation itself. That's what counts, not our interpretations, or their "information" documents.
Bill wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:41 pm
I have been talking to several others who have made similar enquires of APHA
Was your enquiry, or any other of the similar enquiries, made formally on behalf of any organisation? Or were they just treated as enquiries from a member of the public?
ralphrmartin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:29 pm
I've emailed them and asked for a definitive link to the legislation itself. That's what counts, not our interpretations, or their "information" documents.
What counts is what APHA say and how they interpret the the rules, which is what I have given, not my interpretations and the link to the EU legislation is in my first post:
So I will be alright selling plant pots and giving plants away free with them. 
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