can SB Plant Invigorator be used as a soak?...
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Re: can SB Plant Invigorator be used as a soak?...
Sorry to say that binning the lot and restarting might not work either, turn your back and a few mealies will creep in from somewhere thy really are persistent
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Re: can SB Plant Invigorator be used as a soak?...
Googling Bug Clear Ultra, it is stated that it contains the neonicotinoid acetampirid. I douse all my pots once a year with a different neonicotinoid and I get high protection from attack by root mealy bug. For me, stem mealy bug is a much bigger problem. If you have it hiding under a top dressing then just stop using top dressing. I also suggest avoiding packing square pots closely together because they then live in the narrow spaces between the pots and are out of reach of sprays. But total control is almost impossible these days.
A silly question - have mealy bugs got smaller (different species?) or breed at an early age? I say this because although I can find small bugs on some plants, I do not find the nice large juicy ones of old. Or is it my specs?
A silly question - have mealy bugs got smaller (different species?) or breed at an early age? I say this because although I can find small bugs on some plants, I do not find the nice large juicy ones of old. Or is it my specs?
Re: can SB Plant Invigorator be used as a soak?...
Hi Terry.Terry S. wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:15 am Googling Bug Clear Ultra, it is stated that it contains the neonicotinoid acetampirid. I douse all my pots once a year with a different neonicotinoid and I get high protection from attack by root mealy bug. For me, stem mealy bug is a much bigger problem. If you have it hiding under a top dressing then just stop using top dressing. I also suggest avoiding packing square pots closely together because they then live in the narrow spaces between the pots and are out of reach of sprays. But total control is almost impossible these days.
A silly question - have mealy bugs got smaller (different species?) or breed at an early age? I say this because although I can find small bugs on some plants, I do not find the nice large juicy ones of old. Or is it my specs?
The original Bug Clear Ultra, still available to buy, does indeed contain acetamiprid - as mentioned in an earlier thread the newer Provanto Ultimate Bug Killer no longer does. I'll continue using the original version though of course am limited to the four times a year instruction.
I think my Mealys are the stem rather than root variety, certainly looking at the root balls of the plants I've re-potted so far there is little evidence of them below the surface. When I do find them they seem to be either on the plants, just under the edges of the plants or strolling around the rims of the pots... All of my pots are circular terracotta clay and I try to make sure none of them touch as just another small effort to make things more difficult for the crawlers. When I spray I pick up each pot individually to do it.
Size wise, mine seem to vary from the barely perceptible (these are capable of moving much faster than the bigger ones and are thus more of a challenge to spear with my needle!) through to the size of a small camper van, which make an audible "pop" when you crush them. The vast majority are in between the two extremes, maybe the size of a traditional pin head. Presumably the variety is to do with them being at different stages in their life cycle?
For what its worth, I've found while re-potting that an oral irrigator is a very useful tool for cleaning roots and the underside of plants!
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Re: can SB Plant Invigorator be used as a soak?...
I sprinkle diatomaceous earth in the trays on the staging (and in compost when repotting)then I place my plants a little away from each other (socially distanced!) too. Touch wood I have been very lucky not to have root mealies. I did repot everything this year so have checked. I also give all plants a dousing in Bug Ultra yearly and I spray weekly with SB Invigorator. If I do see a mealy on a plant I then dab it off with a cocktail stick dipped in that purple colour paintbrush cleaner solution (mineralised something or other!). Yes a lot of work but, having sought advice on this forum, I feel that these measures keep pests at bay. I won't say eradicate totally, as that will not happen.
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Re: can SB Plant Invigorator be used as a soak?...
That's a very thorough regime Cactusgirl, I'm impressed
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Re: can SB Plant Invigorator be used as a soak?...
Thankyou Juster. I have learnt a lot from experienced growers in the BCSS and so my thanks to everyone who has helped me in my four years of cacti and succulent ownership.
Re: can SB Plant Invigorator be used as a soak?...
Your regime sounds similar to my own, though rather than using a cocktail stick dipped in something I'm afraid I just run them through with a needle! Diatomaceous earth is something new to me though, I must do some more research... Thanks for the tip!Cactusgirl wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:11 pm I sprinkle diatomaceous earth in the trays on the staging (and in compost when repotting)then I place my plants a little away from each other (socially distanced!) too. Touch wood I have been very lucky not to have root mealies. I did repot everything this year so have checked. I also give all plants a dousing in Bug Ultra yearly and I spray weekly with SB Invigorator. If I do see a mealy on a plant I then dab it off with a cocktail stick dipped in that purple colour paintbrush cleaner solution (mineralised something or other!). Yes a lot of work but, having sought advice on this forum, I feel that these measures keep pests at bay. I won't say eradicate totally, as that will not happen.
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Re: can SB Plant Invigorator be used as a soak?...
You are very welcome! The product I use is called 'food grade' as I give it to my horse too as a natural wormer (I've noticed over the years the normal chemical worm preparations raise her liver enzymes). Of course there are other brands and grades available!
Re: can SB Plant Invigorator be used as a soak?...
Well I've learned something! Thank you.Cactusgirl wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:49 pm You are very welcome! The product I use is called 'food grade' as I give it to my horse too as a natural wormer (I've noticed over the years the normal chemical worm preparations raise her liver enzymes). Of course there are other brands and grades available!