Aiko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:19 pm
(I do wonder how many national societies on succulent plant exist. I only know of Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, Czech Republic, Italy, US and the UK. I also think one in China, Japan and South Africa exists, but I am not sure. How about other countries?)
There is an Indian Society of Cacti & Succulents, who have a journal. When I checked to see if they were still going I found that there is also a Cactus & Succulent Society of India Facebook page which seems very commercial.
The Cactus and Succulent Society of Australia has apparently been going since 1927.
I knew about those two, surely there are South American societies?
Patrick wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:42 pm <...> some Fero cacti got damp marks last winter but that was a much cooler location. Here I have the greenhouse where plants that need to be dryer can spend the winter. Lisbon, the Alentejo hills where I am and the Algarve are all different places with different climates,(like London to Leeds) the only constant is a lot of hot sun in summer!
I have seen many echinocactus grusonii and some ferocacti, pilosocerei in Algarve growing in frontyards probably without any care (houses look like people visited them many months ago) in very nice condition. Still don't get what's the biggest problem in cultivation and why sun is dangerous for plant which is all year round in an open air (vs our nordic season movements in/out)
anttisepp wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:55 pm
I have seen many echinocactus grusonii and some ferocacti, pilosocerei in Algarve growing in frontyards probably without any care (houses look like people visited them many months ago) in very nice condition. Still don't get what's the biggest problem in cultivation and why sun is dangerous for plant which is all year round in an open air (vs our nordic season movements in/out)
With my large cacti we are talking about plants that I brought with me from the UK. Adjusting to the sun here is not simple it seems. After the shock of losing plants the first winter I was here I have not put all my bigger cacti into the ground yet. Maybe it will be different when they are in the ground but also the Algarve is milder than where I am
Patrick. Small varied collection of North American, Mexican and Andean Cacti. Variegated Agaves and Echeveria. Developing a succulent garden in Portugal. Joined Somerset BCSS and forum in 2007.
anttisepp wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:55 pm
Still don't get what's the biggest problem in cultivation and why sun is dangerous for plant which is all year round in an open air (vs our nordic season movements in/out)
Our mild winter temperatures and high humidity are very good for numerous fungi, and even more so in spring: most of the plants I lose to various rot instances occur in early spring.
Acclimating plants to our sun is problematic because older tissue is a lot slower building up defences than new one, especially with plants that rely on glaucous coatings, as these are usually only formed with the tissue itself, and not replaced or later created "as needed". A good time to move plants to new locations is right now, as the plants will have a couple of months of low[ish] light intensity to get used to it. By early February the temperatures and light intensity will rise quickly and some form of shading is recommended. Of course, moving them at this moments has its own risks because of the winter weather...
As Jfabio said some plants are freely available in Portugal. This is just a normal garden centre in the Algarve
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Patrick. Small varied collection of North American, Mexican and Andean Cacti. Variegated Agaves and Echeveria. Developing a succulent garden in Portugal. Joined Somerset BCSS and forum in 2007.
My more than 20-30 years grown plants are smaller than ones in the shop...
Under what names in Portuguese can I find garden centres etc using net?
"Loja agricola" or "garden centre" - search gives very small amount of points.
I'd want something in Sotavente, closer to VRSA.
Pattock wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:49 pmViveiro? Like vivero in Spanish?
= viveiros in portuguese.
But "Centro de jardinagem" amazinly plays also, i just found suitable one between Faro and Tavira: https://www.jardimgarve.com/garden-center
"Garden Center" will probably yield some results as well - please note the american spelling. Otherwise, "viveiro", or "viveiro de plantas" and "centro de jardinagem", as you noted.
= viveiros in portuguese. 