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Re: Brexit deal and imports

Post by el48tel » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:45 am

FredG wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:45 pm
el48tel wrote:
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"politician" and "good idea" are not two ideas I'd use in the same paragraph, let alone sentence.
That depends what you want to do with/to the Politician, tel.
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Re: Brexit deal and imports

Post by el48tel » Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:09 am

Tony R wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:29 pm
Indeed, Blurb seem to be well on top of their obligations re. UK VAT and our potential 'problems' re customs and handling charges this side of the water. Let us know how you get on please, my book will be a day or two behind yours :smile:
Just delivered.
One of the label strips shows a declaration of sorts.
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Re: Brexit deal and imports

Post by Tony R » Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:44 am

Excellent, Terry.
Mine arrived too this morning, not 15 minutes ago.
Superb service from Blurb and FedEx as always. (tu)

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Re: Brexit deal and imports

Post by FredG » Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:00 pm

I was just browsing Conophytum and noticed that eBay have +20% vat on plants from the USA.

Do eBay have their lower undergarments in something of a corkscrewed mangle?
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Re: Brexit deal and imports

Post by MatDz » Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:10 pm

FredG wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:00 pm
I was just browsing Conophytum and noticed that eBay have +20% vat on plants from the USA.

Do eBay have their lower undergarments in something of a corkscrewed mangle?
eBay is responsible (from "after Brexit" I think) for paying the correct import tax in the UK, so they simply add it on top of the price.
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Post by ralphrmartin » Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:07 pm

Online marketplaces are responsible, as Mat says, for collecting VAT on imports, for items under £135. There is no "small item" exemption like there used to be. For larger items, the system works as before, basically, as far as I can see.

Already, quite a few online stores have stopped selling to the UK as they cannot be bothered with the paperwork etc.

This really seems like a barmy approach. If every country had similar rules, the marketplaces would have a couple of hundred sets of rules and paperwork to deal with, and the result would be just a handful of global stores who had the scale to cope. So much for competition.
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Re: Brexit deal and imports

Post by esp » Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:13 pm

ralphrmartin wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:07 pm

This really seems like a barmy approach. If every country had similar rules, the marketplaces would have a couple of hundred sets of rules and paperwork to deal with, and the result would be just a handful of global stores who had the scale to cope.
I agree. It's bonkers.
One can only hope that the government will see fit to negotiate more a appropriate trade deal, which actually facilitates trade.
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Post by Keith L » Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:41 pm

I believe that this summer the EU will be introducing a similar system (delayed from last summer due to the virus) for sales in between EU countries, where the vat chargeable on a sale between EU countries will be at the rate of the customer's country rather than the seller's country (I believe large companies have had to work this way for a while).

VAT rates are different in each country, and for what particularly affects my sales is that book VAT varies from 0 in the Republic of Ireland to 25% in Denmark. In the past they have benefited from the UK zero rate so their purchases from me are potentially much more expensive by their countries VAT plus collection charge.

At the same time the exemption for low value items from VAT, Euro 22 in many EU countries but by no means all, will also be abolished.

So I think there would have been similar complications even if we had stayed in the EU but I understand EU sellers would only have to make one VAT registration to cover all the other EU countries rather than one just for the UK.

It's all so complicated! And as for the problems of selling to the EU just for simple books .....!

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Re: Brexit deal and imports

Post by Bill » Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:52 pm

esp wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:13 pm
ralphrmartin wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:07 pm

This really seems like a barmy approach. If every country had similar rules, the marketplaces would have a couple of hundred sets of rules and paperwork to deal with, and the result would be just a handful of global stores who had the scale to cope.
I agree. It's bonkers.
One can only hope that the government will see fit to negotiate more a appropriate trade deal, which actually facilitates trade.
But this is not about trade as such, its about personal imports, and it seems the only real difference to buying say from América, is that goods under £135 should be taxed at source.
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Re: Brexit deal and imports

Post by ragamala » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:51 pm

Bill wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:52 pm

But this is not about trade as such, its about personal imports, and it seems the only real difference to buying say from América, is that goods under £135 should be taxed at source.
Bill, I suggest you check, in my understanding there is no difference, and what you are saying now applies equally to the USA or any foreign country.

"At the end of the transition period, the government will introduce a new model for the VAT treatment of goods arriving into Great Britain from outside of the UK. This will ensure that goods from EU and non-EU countries are treated in the same way"

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https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... nuary-2021
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