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Can anyone identify?

Post by EdMcKenna » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:03 am

Hi, I purchased these small cacti and wondered if anyone can assist with identification especially number 3 of which I've never seen anything like.
I've tried to identify but come up with the usual problem that most books and web pages have pictures of mature not juvenile specimens. I thought:- 1- Frailea. 2 - Turbinicarpus. 3 - ????????? 4 - Mammillaria and Disocactus.
Any suggestions welcome. Thanks :smile:

BTW they were all between £1.30 and £1.50 each and are larger than my own 2 year old seedlings, I seen the exact same suppliers trays in 3 garden centres. It makes me wonder just how many of these the nurseries ship out and given the cost of coming from Europe how can they make a profit? It also makes me realise they must be very good at raising from seed given the numbers and variety available, respect to them.
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Re: Can anyone identify?

Post by Diane » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:11 am

Not sure about #1.

#2 is Matucana madisoniorum.

#3 is Euphorbia bupleurifolia x susannae (a hybrid).

#4 is an Echinopsis.
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Re: Can anyone identify?

Post by EdMcKenna » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:38 am

Thanks Diane for posting.
I thought no.3 might have been a Euphorbia because it has 'real' leaves but I've never seen one before so now I can broaden my search. I'm looking at a book right now, you are spot on with M.madisonoreum, what a variety difference from almost no spines to very spiny.
Thanks again for taking the time to reply.
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Re: Can anyone identify?

Post by edds » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:09 am

I think number 1 might be an Echinopsis too with a healthy dose of 'Lobivia' in it.
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Re: Can anyone identify?

Post by Stuart » Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:31 pm

No.1. Notocactus

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Re: Can anyone identify?

Post by MikeT » Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:37 pm

Is pot 4 one plant or two? The spination looks somewhat different on the 2 heads. The left looks a typical Echinopsis of the oxygona group; not sure the right is the same
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Re: Can anyone identify?

Post by Stuart » Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:38 pm

No.4 is. Notocactus and a Lobivia/Echinopsis. The sowing machine sometimes puts two seeds in one pot.
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Re: Can anyone identify?

Post by EdMcKenna » Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:29 pm

Thank you for the suggestions.
Pot 4 is two different plants. The one on the left as suggested initially by Diane, I now believe to be Echinopsisis eyriesii (not a Mamm. as I originally thought)the one on the right I still can't determine, I'm thinking might be a Ferrocactus (histrix?) it has very angular ribs.
I no longer think no.1 is a Frailea, it is similar in shape and spination to Notocactus floricomus except this one has 18 ribs, 10 white radial spines and 1 large dark brown/black axial central spine. :???:
It can be confusing, which is why I do appreciate the input from more experienced cactophiles to point me in the right direction, thank you all :grin:
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Re: Can anyone identify?

Post by Stuart » Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:50 pm

The best way to name plants is to show the photos here and there will usually be more than one reply with the same name. The worst way is to try to name plants using Google images.

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Re: Can anyone identify?

Post by EdMcKenna » Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:57 pm

I try not to use google images, the number of obviously wrong images is always very high.
I have 4 decent books but not quite up to date and I use Llifle.com a lot but they seem to be having server/bandwidth issues.
I find nothing really beats a fellow grower who says "I have that" whether it be a plant, pest or other related issue. :grin:
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