ID help please - Tacitus hybrid?

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ID help please - Tacitus hybrid?

Post by edds » Tue May 11, 2021 8:54 pm

As per the title, I acquired this as Graptopetalum bellum.
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It obviously isn't Tacitus bellus (and I knew this when I saw it out if flower) but I thought it might be x Tacipetalum 'Superstar' or similar.

However the flowers are wrong for that and, seeing it in person, the leaves don't look right either.

I'm wondering if it might be x Tacisedum 'Barton Glory'?
https://www.crassulaceae.ch/de/artikel? ... =B&aID=330

Does anyone on here grow this and can confirm? Or tell me I've got it wrong!
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Re: ID help please - Tacitus hybrid?

Post by Ernie » Tue May 11, 2021 9:06 pm

whatever it is, it is very nice. If i had it I would be very pleased.
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Re: ID help please - Tacitus hybrid?

Post by edds » Tue May 11, 2021 10:05 pm

Thanks Ernie. I really like it too and am not in the least bit disappointed with it. Be nice to get a tentative name on a label at least though!
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Re: ID help please - Tacitus hybrid?

Post by Rob » Tue May 11, 2021 10:41 pm

There is a cross with Sedum suaveolens named Tacisedum 'Heswall', you can sort of see both parents in that, your plant does appear to be little more Tacitus like though so I am wondering if it could be a back cross? Whatever it is, it's a decent addition to your collection, Ed.
I have never come across Barton Glory though so cant really help much.
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Re: ID help please - Tacitus hybrid?

Post by Stuart » Tue May 11, 2021 11:22 pm

I've seen this one grown in huge numbers in Holland. Flowers are usually pale pink and long-lasting. It's far more vigorous than the standard Tacitus with strong red flowers. I've only ever seen it as 'Tacitus hybrid'. I would expect to see them at UK Cactus Marts later this year.

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Re: ID help please - Tacitus hybrid?

Post by edds » Wed May 12, 2021 6:35 am

Thanks both. According to the International Crassulaceae Network page 'Barton Glory' is a backcross of 'Heswall' with Tacitus bellus so would bear out what you said.

I've currently got it labelled as X Tacisedum ? So not far off your Tacitus hybrid suggestion Stuart!
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Re: ID help please - Tacitus hybrid?

Post by juster » Wed May 12, 2021 5:02 pm

I used to have ‘Heswall’, which had rather disappointingly white flowers, here’s an old photo
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Yours is a much nicer plant Edds, and one I shall look out for. I see there is also a ‘Barton Pink’, which looks similar.
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Re: ID help please - Tacitus hybrid?

Post by edds » Wed May 12, 2021 7:00 pm

Thanks Juster. It has multiple heads so when I repot it after flowering (it's not in my compost mix!) I can see if any are loose and we can swap? (If you wouldn't prefer and can find one of the wholesale plants Stuart mentioned!)
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Re: ID help please - Tacitus hybrid?

Post by juster » Wed May 12, 2021 10:30 pm

Thanks Ed, that’s really kind and I will happily swap with you. I don’t have Heswall any longer, but have both of its parents plus a good number of Echeverias. I will await your repotting :grin:
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Re: ID help please - Tacitus hybrid?

Post by edds » Thu May 13, 2021 6:59 am

I'll be in touch. 👍
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