Which brand of John Innes?

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Re: Which brand of John Innes?

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Hi chris,

Glad you are pleased with the Clover brand, Erin is just as good but at the moment as they both come from across the water (Irish sea) it is proving very difficult to get hold of, we are down to our last 5 bags. I take it you are still able to get hold of it?

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Re: Which brand of John Innes?

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I like Nick have found Westland very good of late, but I do not use the peat free which seems to be garden waste rotted down.
At the end of the day the Westland Ji 3 I use ,is only 20 percent of the mix, so the importance is greatly reduced.
The Irish composts have always been good if not always available, but then again they do have a peat industry.
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Re: Which brand of John Innes?

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RAYWOODBRIDGE wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:28 pm ... they do have a peat industry.

Had a peat industry. It is being wound up, though some are resisting it.

"Most Irish substrate manufacturers will exhaust existing stockpiles of peat by the middle of 2021 which will lead to a shutdown of the entire horticultural sector."

https://data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachta ... gmi_en.pdf

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/ene ... -1.4459179

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2020 ... tiest-fuel

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/peat-comp ... 025-627578
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Re: Which brand of John Innes?

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topsy wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:32 am Hi chris,

Glad you are pleased with the Clover brand, Erin is just as good but at the moment as they both come from across the water (Irish sea) it is proving very difficult to get hold of, we are down to our last 5 bags. I take it you are still able to get hold of it?

Suzanne
I got five bags locally yesterday Suzanne. Once no longer available, the lady at the garden centre said she had no idea what they would do as yet. She showed me some trials they had done comparing growth in various commercial composts and Clover produced by far the best. I've tried coir with a few plants, crassulas and Aloe variegata and the results have been good.
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Re: Which brand of John Innes?

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Just out of interest I’ve just opened a bag of Sylvagrow ericaceaous peat free compost to pot up a couple of Acers. Quite impressed by the quality.
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Re: Which brand of John Innes?

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Their multi-purpose compost is excellent too, I‘ve used it in a mix for sempervivums and some other succulents (as well as neat for allotment things).
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Re: Which brand of John Innes?

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ChrisR wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:38 am I've tried coir with a few plants, crassulas and Aloe variegata and the results have been good.
If you want to try coir properly, get Canna Coco Professional Plus+. It has been treated with calcium and magnesium salts to adjust the way it interferes with fertilisers. The drainage is generally better than other brands without being too lumpy. Those "tomato" growers are very concerned with quality and yield. Some brands sell secret ingredient wu and some actually put in the research. The untreated Canna Coco Natural is for those "tomato" growers who don't understand that you need to invest to get profit.
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Re: Which brand of John Innes?

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Has anyone tried Durstons john Innes as a local GC has 25lt bags
I haven't tracked down any of the clover one locally yet even thought there (clover)website says they stock it
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Re: Which brand of John Innes?

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The latest news from the Peatbog Correspondent at the Manchester Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... ed-by-2024
The sale of peat to gardeners in England and Wales is to be banned by 2024 under plans published by the government on Saturday. Ministers said they also aimed to end peat use in the professional horticulture sector by 2028.
Several experts were quoted as saying that this is not enough nor soon enough.
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Re: Which brand of John Innes?

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If it doesn’t have peat can you still call it John Innes?
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