Echinocereus ID please

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Echinocereus ID please

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This Echinocereus flowered for the first time last week. Long after all the other Echinocerei had finished. It's in an 8" pan, the main stems are 10 or 11 inches (25 - 28cm). It's in the allotment greenhouse, and the flower had gone over by the next time I went, a few days later, so this is the best photo of the flower.

Any suggestions for which species?
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Echinocereus scheeri is my best guess.
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It's not the best photo, taken on phone not camera. It doesn't really show how thick the stems are, or how long the flower tube is. The stems are 2" thick, much chunkier than my sheeri, the flower tube is much shorter and petals much deeper colour than scheeri.
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This looks very similar in stem, spine and flower form to what I have labelled as E cinerascens. Mind you, I bought that plant about 40 years ago from a florist/garden shop (Webb’s in Redditch if I remember right), so it could be a wrong name.
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stramineus???
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Post by RAYWOODBRIDGE »

Hi Mike
Your plant is Echinocereus viereckii ssp.viereckii, viereckii does have many forms and ssp. but the stems on your plant are the original type species.
E. scheeri has pink or orange flowers and the stems are thinner and more numerous.
E cinnerascens has a similar flower but with a yellow center.
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Thanks, everyone, for suggestions

It doesn't seem to have enough spines for stramineus or cinarescens, judging both by plants I have/had of these, and books (John Pilbeam's and NCL). The photo doesn't show, but there wasn't a yellow centre to the flower

Viereckii seems to fit. Ray. Neither of the previously mentioned books have brilliant photos of this in terms of seeing the overall plant and getting a clear idea of scale, but the combination of photos and text does seem to fit. The viereckii moricalii I have has much narrower stems, but that seems to be correct when I read the descriptions.

I'll get the label printer out.

I'll have to give it a larger pot and try a better photo next year.

Again, thanks

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Post by RAYWOODBRIDGE »

Mike I have tried to find a better photo of viereckii, but this one is from 15 years or so ago when I tried to restart an old root stock.
E. viereckii ssp.morricalii is the spineless form with usually a single stem till the plant gains a bit of age.
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