October 2019 - Odd-tober

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October 2019 - Odd-tober

Post by el48tel » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:15 pm

What about those unexpected flowers / shapes / colours / spination / growth?
So I'd like to see a picture of something ---- you didn't expect.
Not going to judge the plant -- just your picture, its content and quality.
So let's be seeing them.
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Re: October 2019 - Odd-tober

Post by Chris L » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:12 pm

I've posted this picture on the forum before, but thought it suitable for this month's competition under "something you didn't expect"...... :shock: :shock:
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Re: October 2019 - Odd-tober

Post by el48tel » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:48 pm

That'll do nicely.
I'm reliably informed that diatomaceous earth is excellent to use in slug disposal.
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Re: October 2019 - Odd-tober

Post by Chris L » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:17 pm

el48tel wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:48 pm
That'll do nicely.
I'm reliably informed that diatomaceous earth is excellent to use in slug disposal.
I don't kill snails (the one above included). :oops: They get lobbed over the back garden wall into the neighbours garden....... :mrgreen:

I am tempted though to put some DE round the door sill next time we go on holiday for the slugs to enjoy. I found six of them lurking under the staging after our summer hols.
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Re: October 2019 - Odd-tober

Post by MikeT » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:17 pm

Chris L wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:17 pm
I don't kill snails (the one above included). They get lobbed over the back garden wall into the neighbours garden.......
...but as they have a good homing instinct, they'll make their way back again. See here
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Re: October 2019 - Odd-tober

Post by el48tel » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:47 am

Chris L wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:17 pm
el48tel wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:48 pm
That'll do nicely.
I'm reliably informed that diatomaceous earth is excellent to use in slug disposal.
I don't kill snails (the one above included). :oops: They get lobbed over the back garden wall into the neighbours garden....... :mrgreen:

I am tempted though to put some DE round the door sill next time we go on holiday for the slugs to enjoy. I found six of them lurking under the staging after our summer hols.
:grin:
I think I used to have a neighbour like you ..... it was like Wimbledon .... snails back and forth.
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Re: October 2019 - Odd-tober

Post by Chris L » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:51 am

MikeT wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:17 pm
Chris L wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:17 pm
I don't kill snails (the one above included). They get lobbed over the back garden wall into the neighbours garden.......
...but as they have a good homing instinct, they'll make their way back again. See here
My thinking is there is always going to be a certain snail population density.

If I kill the snails then all that will happen is that the snails in surrounding areas will breed more to fill the lower population density in my area.

If I lob a snail away from where it was living, then it will land near other snails causing that area to have a higher population density, so the snails there will have less to eat and will breed less, therefore actually helping my neighbour.

For me, snails don't do too much damage to my plants - so I adopt a bit of live and let live attitude.
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Re: October 2019 - Odd-tober

Post by MikeT » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:43 am

Chris L wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:51 am
My thinking is there is always going to be a certain snail population density.

If I kill the snails then all that will happen is that the snails in surrounding areas will breed more to fill the lower population density in my area.
But if the snails you throw away don't come back, you have the same problem.
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If I lob a snail away from where it was living, then it will land near other snails causing that area to have a higher population density, so the snails there will have less to eat and will breed less, therefore actually helping my neighbour.
There can't be many neighbours who would take such a positive view of having snails dumped on them. The logic only works is the snails are already at maximum possible population levels for the existing food supply, and I doubt that this is often the case.
As the discarded snails will make their way back home, lobbing them away isn't going to achieve anything. But perhaps the lower population will breed more while the exiles are making their slow way home, so you'll end up with more...

I don't use slug/snail pellets in the garden, but have no hesitation in using them in the greenhouse and cold frame. I'm all for keeping the snail & slug population in both sites below it's 'natural' equilibrium level. Levels of snail predators are presumably much lower in my greenhouse than in the open garden.
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Re: October 2019 - Odd-tober

Post by el48tel » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:05 am

I once tried a more humane trap --- beer in a glass jam jar sunk into the garden - caught no molluscs --- just a field mouse, but it did drown happy.

WE DIGRESS ---- pictures PLEASE
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Re: October 2019 - Odd-tober

Post by Keith H » Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:52 pm

Chris L wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:51 am
MikeT wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:17 pm
Chris L wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:17 pm
I don't kill snails (the one above included). They get lobbed over the back garden wall into the neighbours garden.......
...but as they have a good homing instinct, they'll make their way back again. See here
My thinking is there is always going to be a certain snail population density.

If I kill the snails then all that will happen is that the snails in surrounding areas will breed more to fill the lower population density in my area.

If I lob a snail away from where it was living, then it will land near other snails causing that area to have a higher population density, so the snails there will have less to eat and will breed less, therefore actually helping my neighbour.

For me, snails don't do too much damage to my plants - so I adopt a bit of live and let live attitude.
You should mark the shells with tipex before re homing them then keep a lookout for their return. :)
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