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Aloe perrieri & bellatula?

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:36 pm
by Acid John
On the left is perrieri and bellatula on the right (If the photos display correct orientation). Does anyone know what the difference between the two is, they are both the same age and cultivation wise.
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Re: Aloe perrieri & bellatula?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:10 am
by Terry S.
Reynolds:-

Per - leaves 20-30cm long, 15-20mm wide
Bel - leaves 10-13cm long, 9-10mm wide

Inflorescences of similar height

So basically, bellatula is a much smaller plant, otherwise similar.

Re: Aloe perrieri & bellatula?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:56 am
by Acid John
Thank you Terry. I had seen references to Perrieri being less likely to offshoot and Bellatula more so.
Plus statements that one had a rougher surface texture without annoyingly saying which one.

Re: Aloe perrieri & bellatula?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:07 pm
by Christian
The recent Aloe guide mentions about 16 leaves for A. bellatula, 10-15 for perrieri. Also 35 flowers on a raceme of 12-16cm length for A. bellatula vs. 20-30 flowers on a slightly longer raceme of 15-20cm on perrieri.

It goes on to say that both are likely to be the same species, coming from the same mountain range. „The somewhat larger size of A perrieri may well be attributed to more benign climate and soil conditions (...).“

Re: Aloe perrieri & bellatula?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:09 pm
by Christian
There is no mention of the two differences you mentioned, as far as I can see?

Re: Aloe perrieri & bellatula?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:11 pm
by Acid John
I will have a look for the references.
Christian, are you saying where they are found on the mountain dictates what they look like? If so my two should after ten years or more under the same conditions should look exactly the same. The rather small size is probably because I don't water much.

Re: Aloe perrieri & bellatula?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:03 pm
by Christian
That‘s how I understood it, John, and perhaps a degree of clonal variation comes into this as well?

I don‘t have first hand experience of growing these, but your two plants look so similar, even though obviously one of them is inclined to offset, and the other one is staying single.

Re: Aloe perrieri & bellatula?

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:56 pm
by Christian
Here is an old thread which discusses the two spp.: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=152334&hilit=perrieri

Colin mentions (ten years ago) that Aloe bellatula was never recollected since its first description - I wonder whether this has happened since?

Re: Aloe perrieri & bellatula?

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:56 pm
by Acid John
Interesting thread link Christian. I wonder if I over fertilise will it blow the plants up and exaggerate their differences because the more I learn the less difference there seems to be.
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Re: Aloe perrieri & bellatula?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:23 pm
by Acid John
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Of Mice and Aloes
Bloody Mice have eaten the flower stalks but discarded the flowers. Never had this occur with Aloes before only Conophytums.