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Chris L wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:40 pm .........And it is still DAFT because I could sell pest free plants through the post and save all my grotty mealy bug ridden ones for face to face sales.
Hope I'm not too late but I received a passported plant which had mealy bug. The passport issuer assured me that mealy bug are not covered by the passport. "The inspectors are only interested in the serious stuff".
He did refund the cost and asked me to destroy the plant though
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To the best of my knowledge, plant passports do not guarantee that the plants are pest-free in the way that a phytosanitary certificate SHOULD. They just provide a means of tracking the movement of plants in case a serious new pest such as Xylella is detected in the country. In fact, more or less what the Government is now doing in tracking spread of COVID-19!
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I would have said more like ISO9000 / BS5750 where you're allowed to produce rubbish as long as there's a system to record that you know you are.
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FredG wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:24 am I would have said more like ISO9000 / BS5750 where you're allowed to produce rubbish as long as there's a system to record that you know you are.
How true those words
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This has potential I could confiscate all the nice cactus & succulents for further inspection in my GH :lol:
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Tina wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:42 pm This has potential I could confiscate all the nice cactus & succulents for further inspection in my GH :lol:
Government Dept / Agency / QUANGO .............. just think of all of that paperwork to be filled out .... there goes a forest in Finland
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el48tel wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:30 pm .... there goes a forest in Finland
Tina confisticated it?
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FredG wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:47 pm
el48tel wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:30 pm .... there goes a forest in Finland
Tina confisticated it?
Nah ..... Boris's boys
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daydreamer wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:04 am
Paul D wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:21 am DEFRA have issued some clarification of what is a professional grower for the purposes of plant passports. It seems that having a price list means you are a professional.
https://www.forum.bcss.org.uk/Amateurs.pdf
The document clearly recognises amateur, non-professional and professional operators. Only professionals need to register. A professional is someone who makes a profit from selling plants or is paid for some service they provide that involves plants in some way. If you have a price list or a dedicated website listing plants for sale you “may be considered to sell regularly with a view to making a profit”. However, if you only produce the occasional list and can show that your costs in producing the plants exceed the sale price you are not making a profit and are therefore not a professional so wouldn’t need to register.
The document also says under Home Gardener:
“If you grow plants in your garden and sell them, you will only be considered to be a professional operator if you do so with a view to making a regular profit (i.e. you regularly sell them with a view to making a profit).”
With the current Brexit deal in scope, is this still the case? The DEFRA document is still online (https://planthealthportal.defra.gov.uk/ ... eet-v2.pdf), but I cannot find anything relevant for "amateur operators" on https://www.gov.uk/guidance/issuing-pla ... -in-the-eu (updated on 31st of December with a title change to "Issue plant passports to move regulated plant material in Great Britain") any more.
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