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Ross M
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Ferocactus identification

Post by Ross M » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:54 pm

I'm guessing latispinus on the left and something like stainesii v. pilosus or gracilis on the right????? Can anyone with better knowledge of Ferocacti help?

Mammillaria's they certainly ain't 🤔

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Re: Ferocactus identification

Post by juster » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:21 pm

I'm far from an expert on Ferocacti, but I don't think the one on the right is pilosus, or at least, it doesn't look anything like mine! below
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The one on the left has quite broad spines, so maybe is latispinus, others might know better.
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Re: Ferocactus identification

Post by jerryb23 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:55 pm

The one on the right could be subsp, Pringlei (no wispy spines) and the other could be Latispinus subsp. Greenwoodii as the centrals don't look quite as wide as a standard latispinus.
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Re: Ferocactus identification

Post by iann » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:17 pm

Lefthand one might be F. herrerae, very common in the trade.
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Re: Ferocactus identification

Post by RAYWOODBRIDGE » Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:02 am

All Lidl labels have the plant passport numbers on the back ( and should say Ferocactus in small print on the front )
Also there will be listed a GGN number which you can trace online.
Those look like they have come from Edelcactus in Holland and you can trace the species on their website.
What do I think they are ? well young Ferocactus are not easy to ID, but I agree the one on the right looks like the red spine form of F. pilosus which is sometimes called F. stainesii.
The one on the left with the open wavy ribs and a hooked lower central spine looks like a form of F. latispinus and I would say it is F. latispinus ssp. spiralis.

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Re: Ferocactus identification

Post by Ross M » Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:12 pm

Thanks all and in particular Ray for the detailed information. Unfortunately the labels don't help as every single plant in the tray, including two different species of Melocacti, had been given Mammillaria labels! The tray was complete and the plants just been put out so I'm thinking they must have left the nursery like that.
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