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Gasteria glauca ES1366 field number

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I have recently purchased a Gasteria glauca ES1366 and am trying to track its origin. I know it came from Kakteen Haage, https://www.kakteen-haage.de/en/plants/ ... S1366.html, but I am more interested in the ES collection number.

I have found a mention of this Gasteria on a Polish forum (the very top of https://forumogrodnicze.info/viewtopic. ... &start=561), and suggested was it is a typo of Ernst Speck's collection number. After a bit more digging, http://www.cl-cactus.com/collector.asp?Acronym=ES notes that "ES and SPECKS are catalogue numbers only for the Exotica nursery. MES is used for field collected material.", so this could originally came from Specks' nursery (which seems to be confirmed by viewtopic.php?f=84&t=167505&p=272012&hi ... ca#p272012).

Unfortunately http://www.specks-exotica.com is dead and https://thesucculentist.com/en/ states it closed in 2016, and https://web.archive.org/web/2014*/http: ... asteria/01 did not track the page.

Does anyone happen to have Specks' ES numbers list at hand?
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Re: Gasteria glauca ES1366 field number

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Hi Mat,
Yes, ES numbers are Specks catalogue numbers and are always 5 digit numbers.
You can find various of his price lists on earlier years of Wayback Archive.

Here are the gasterias for sale for catalogue 4, March-October 2005

Gasteria (Fam.: Aloaceae)
15292 Gasteria aff. brachyphylla; RSA, Huisrivier pass, Calitzdorp B,1,2,Q 8 3.50 €
15291 Gasteria brachyphylla RH 596; RSA, Calitzdorp Dam B,1,2,Q 9 3.50 €
15290 Gasteria carinata; RSA, Brandrivier B,1,2,Q 8 4.00 €
15243 Gasteria cv. 'Emmy' B,1,2,4,Q 6 5.50 €
15242 Gasteria cv. 'Royal' B,1,2,4,Q 6 4.50 €
13662 Gasteria glauca sp. nov.; SOUTH AFRICA, TYPE LOCALITY B,1,2,Q 6 =\= 3.50 €
12832 Gasteria glomerata B,1,2,Q 6 =\= 2.50 €
12196 Gasteria vlokii; RSA, Swartberg range B,1,Q 9 4.00 €

You will see that the catalogue number for Gasteria glauca is ES13662 so over the years your plant had 'lost' the fifth digit 2.

Authentic material from the original type collection would have the Ernst van Jaarsveld's collection number EVJ14670 as seen in the photo I took of it at Kirstenbosch:

glauca type collection Kirstenbosch.jpg
Hope this helps. Best,
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Re: Gasteria glauca ES1366 field number

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Tony R wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:49 pm Hope this helps.
It indeed does, thank you! I found the 2005 catalogue, unfortunately the newer ones, in PDFs, did not make it to the archive.

And thank you for sharing the photo from Kirstenbosch!
Mat
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