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Cleistocactus???

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I bought this in May 2020 from Abbey Brook nursery. The label said Cleistocactus aureaspina? ex CIC
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I bought it as I wanted an aureaspina for hybridising but this year it flowered for the first time and this happened...
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I actually removed the first flower a few weeks ago thinking it was malformed but then realised that this was it after I removed it!

Any ideas what it is?
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Could be an unusual clone of what it is labelled as.

The flower looks perfectly "fertilisable" (by moths? hummers?).

The CIC reference needs tracing.
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That looks like Cleistocactus brookeae, not Hildewinteria aureispina (=C. winteri).
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Minime8484 wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 8:54 pm That looks like Cleistocactus brookeae, not Hildewinteria aureispina (=C. winteri).
Agreed, the flower does, but Cleistocactus brookeae is erect, not lax.
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Personally I would email Brian @ Abbey Brook and see if he can give you anymore information about it
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edds wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 7:12 pm I bought this in May 2020 from Abbey Brook nursery. The label said Cleistocactus aureaspina? ex CIC
PXL_20220519_143657326.jpg

I bought it as I wanted an aureaspina for hybridising but this year it flowered for the first time and this happened...
PXL_20220519_143707650.jpg
PXL_20220519_143710873.jpg

I actually removed the first flower a few weeks ago thinking it was malformed but then realised that this was it after I removed it!

Any ideas what it is?
Does the label say CIC? Or G.C?
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Yes, I think GC is what this is meant to say. C. brookeae has a distinctive almost 90 degree dog-leg to its flower when viewed side-on. Could we get another photo in profile? The vulpis-cauda form (or subspecies) has pendant stems.
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Will take some more photos tomorrow and a photo of the label. The plant's in my office. It looks a lot like some of the photos on the web of brookeae ssp. vulpis cauda but then there seems to be a wide range of photos!

It is definitely not like the colademononis or flower I was expecting from an aureaspina and it develops in a different way too with a very different bud.
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It looks like one of the many Hildewintera hybrids that are about.
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Writing labels here, if I write "ex" it means that I have collected the seed from whatever comes after the "ex" (could be a place, could be a plant).
Maybe a similar principle?
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