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Cleistocactus???
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 7:12 pm
by edds
I bought this in May 2020 from Abbey Brook nursery. The label said Cleistocactus aureaspina? ex CIC
I bought it as I wanted an aureaspina for hybridising but this year it flowered for the first time and this happened...
I actually removed the first flower a few weeks ago thinking it was malformed but then realised that this was it after I removed it!
Any ideas what it is?
Re: Cleistocactus???
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 8:12 pm
by Davey246
Could be an unusual clone of what it is labelled as.
The flower looks perfectly "fertilisable" (by moths? hummers?).
The CIC reference needs tracing.
Re: Cleistocactus???
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 8:54 pm
by Minime8484
That looks like Cleistocactus brookeae, not Hildewinteria aureispina (=C. winteri).
Re: Cleistocactus???
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 9:08 pm
by Davey246
Minime8484 wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 8:54 pm
That looks like
Cleistocactus brookeae, not
Hildewinteria aureispina (=
C. winteri).
Agreed, the flower does, but Cleistocactus brookeae is erect, not lax.
Re: Cleistocactus???
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 9:39 pm
by Chris in Leeds
Personally I would email Brian @ Abbey Brook and see if he can give you anymore information about it
Re: Cleistocactus???
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 9:46 pm
by esp
edds wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 7:12 pm
I bought this in May 2020 from Abbey Brook nursery. The label said Cleistocactus aureaspina? ex CIC
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I bought it as I wanted an aureaspina for hybridising but this year it flowered for the first time and this happened...
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I actually removed the first flower a few weeks ago thinking it was malformed but then realised that this was it after I removed it!
Any ideas what it is?
Does the label say CIC? Or G.C?
Re: Cleistocactus???
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 9:59 pm
by Phil_SK
Yes, I think GC is what this is meant to say. C. brookeae has a distinctive almost 90 degree dog-leg to its flower when viewed side-on. Could we get another photo in profile? The vulpis-cauda form (or subspecies) has pendant stems.
Re: Cleistocactus???
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 10:18 pm
by edds
Will take some more photos tomorrow and a photo of the label. The plant's in my office. It looks a lot like some of the photos on the web of brookeae ssp. vulpis cauda but then there seems to be a wide range of photos!
It is definitely not like the colademononis or flower I was expecting from an aureaspina and it develops in a different way too with a very different bud.
Re: Cleistocactus???
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 11:02 pm
by RAYWOODBRIDGE
It looks like one of the many Hildewintera hybrids that are about.
Re: Cleistocactus???
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 7:46 am
by Davey246
Writing labels here, if I write "ex" it means that I have collected the seed from whatever comes after the "ex" (could be a place, could be a plant).
Maybe a similar principle?