Tavaresia x meintjesii

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Re: Tavaresia x meintjesii

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Phil_SK wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 5:32 pm Not until someone publishes that combination.
Phil, it would be much more appropriate to give these hybrids cultivar names. But the original Tavaresia meintjesii was collected in the wild as a natural hybrid.
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Colin Walker wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 5:46 pm
Herts Mike wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 5:08 pm As you’re a stickler for correctness Colin, shouldn’t it be Ceropegia x meintjesii?
Mike,

I don't accept the lumping of stapeliads into Ceropegia. FYI neither does Kew and now neither does the RHS on my recommendation.
Nor me Colin. I'm in good company....
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For anyone interested, I've now tracked down some pictures of the real Tavaresia angolensis (on a page about Tavaresia barkleyi):
http://pza.sanbi.org/tavaresia-barklyi
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http://pza.sanbi.org/tavaresia-barklyi wrote:T. angolensis and T. barklyi are distinguished by the ribbing on their stems; the former species has from five to nine ribs and the latter, eight to fourteen.
So the ones within the intersection of [5, 9] & [8, 14] are both angolensis and barklyi? Quite an useful key!
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Re: Tavaresia x meintjesii

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ralphrmartin wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 9:37 pm For anyone interested, I've now tracked down some pictures of the real Tavaresia angolensis (on a page about Tavaresia barkleyi):
http://pza.sanbi.org/tavaresia-barklyi
Key features of both true spp. of Tavaresia, i.e. T. angolensis & barklyi (note the spelling, no e) are the outer corona lobes, shown in the third photo down in the link: each lobe ends in a distinct knob or blob which is globose or pear-shaped. (Excuse the technical terms here. :smile:) As far as I'm aware no other stapeliad has an outer corona lobe of this structure, which is also absent from the hybrid xStaparesia meintjesii.

So, if your Tavaresia doesn't have this outer coronal knob or blob then it isn't a Tavaresia.
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