Sedum Palmers 'rayones'

[Acid John]

Sedum palmeri from Rayones in Mexico survived a hard winter and seems to be doing well in a very shallow stone sink with a half inch of gritty soil and a lot of gravel.

[edds]

Looking good John. I have the Guatemalan Mini form and rubromarginatum. I left some of the Guatemalan Mini out in the cold greenhouse and a bowl under a roof in our open porch and they survived. Haven't tested the rubromarginatum yet.

[habanerocat]

I have this growing year round outside.

And these are cuttings from the parent plant. It roots and grows very easy. Flowers early even in the greenhouse with no winter water. Just past their best.

Are these also Sedum palmeri, possibly even 'rayones'?

[MikeT]

The outdoor life looks to be suiting it, good colouring on those leaves. I have ssp emarginatum, which is fine in an unheated greenhouse - also in flower now. ICN doesn't recognise emarginatum and rubromarginatum as valid subspecies. I haven't thought of trying it outdoors, but certainly looks as if it's worth a go. I have a Sedum confusum which is fine as an outdoor plant, but that is recognised as being hardy.

[Paul in Essex]

I've had this outside for over 20 years and it has been fine here, undamaged in any of my bad winters. Also my own collection of a miniature that for all intents and purposes is exactly like 'Guatemalan Mini' growing for 15 yrs. I believe the degree to which different clones turn red is quite variable, I've seen one that goes almost completely red in winter that I still haven't blagged a cutting of. Must remedy that.

[MikeT]

Thanks, Paul

Essex probably gets as cold as Sheffield in winter, and the Potteries as wet as Sheffield, so I really must give this a go. Time to take some cuttings.

[Acid John]

It has been nice seeing photos of other peoples versions of this plant. It does look like it would make a good 'wall or rockery' plant but I think it may be to large for most greenhouses, I mean you could get 20x Turbinicarpus in that space

[habanerocat]

It has been nice seeing photos of other peoples versions of this plant. It does look like it would make a good 'wall or rockery' plant but I think it may be to large for most greenhouses, I mean you could get 20x Turbinicarpus in that space

You're right of course.
And I think it's their last year in that corner.

I'll still keep them outside like my mother used to.
But they'll need winter protection.

[Acid John]

Habernerocat you have prompted me to go out and take a photo just now. The branches seem to be biannual with last year's rosettes flowering this year. This has had no protection just sat there through the cold and wet.

[edds]

Here's my Guatemalan Mini that has been sat out in an open porch all winter.

I left some other seedlings outside in 6cm pots and whole there are some green shoots still, I think they will all rot as the weather warms.