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Re: Cactus and Succulent Review

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Yes, unless we know the full history/parentage of a cultivar then we're a bit stuck! Which is why HWH will never die - too many are a bit of a mystery, especially if open pollination has played a part in things.
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Re: Cactus and Succulent Review

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Phil, if you don't like Hildewintera, why don't you also consider Chamaecereus to be a name worth dumping, to be replaced by Lobivia?
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Re: Cactus and Succulent Review

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Hildewintera isn't a valid name.
In using Chamaecereus, I'm following the likes of Plants of the World Online and carophyllales.org and almost the 3rd Cites Cactaceae Index. Chamaecereus is a small genus but it holds together well with similar-looking species. In the only substantial genetic study of its species, the genus sits sister to Soehrensia (this pair being sister to Lobivia) and there doesn't seem any appetite for joining these three together.
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Re: Cactus and Succulent Review

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Thanks for the explanation.
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