Dudleya

[ChrisR]

Any Dudleya specialists on here or anyone know someone who is in the UK? I'm promised some plants I don't particularly want.....

[ralphrmartin]

Simon Snowden (BCSS Membership Secretary) is pretty keen on them - and is a member if Sheffield Branch.

[ChrisR]

Simon Snowden (BCSS Membership Secretary) is pretty keen on them - and is a member if Sheffield Branch.

Thanks Ralph, I should have said, "....apart from Simon".....

[TomInTucson]

Simon Snowden (BCSS Membership Secretary) is pretty keen on them - and is a member if Sheffield Branch.

Thanks Ralph, I should have said, "....apart from Simon".....

I can't give you any help to an individual in your area, but if you don't mind I'd like to drift OT, and pose 2 questions.

Have you contacted anyone at the Sedum Society?

For anyone that (like myself) has been interested in Dudleya, you soon discover that they aren't nearly as popular as other members of the Crassulaceae. Reid Moran was unquestionably the world's expert on the genus, I had the pleasure of meeting him when I lived near where he worked in San Diego. He was often asked about their cultivation. relationship to Echeveria, and if hybrids had been tried with other genera. He said many times that there were none known. The other day while shopping online for some Echeveria hybrids, I ran into a hybrid that contradicts Reid's observations: a xDudleyveria. Can you (or anyone else) help me verify it's validity?

[Simon S]

As Chris and Ralph suggest Tom, I'm a little more than obsessive about Dudleya (I'm horrified that such a great genus isn't more widely grown in the UK ), but don't believe that Dudleya and Echeveria hybrids can - and do - exist. Our plants have a way of continuing to surprise us, so I could be completely wrong.

There is a wonderful book edited by Henk 't Hart and Urs Eggli, Evolution and Systematics of the Crassulaceae, which describes the differences between Dudleya and Echeveria (they're not closely related as you'll know). Although the book is a number of years old now, it details failed attempts to hybridise the two genera. They're both independently promiscuous, but not with each other.

[Patrick]

I don't think I'd ever heard of Dudleya when I lived in the UK but I have a number in the garden here in Portugal and so far they seem to do well. They are ok with a bit of frost, grow nicely through the winter, flower beautifully and are ok with the summer heat. I think they are rather grand plants

[Paul in Essex]

I grow a few here, too. Lovely things.

[TomInTucson]

As Chris and Ralph suggest Tom, I'm a little more than obsessive about Dudleya (I'm horrified that such a great genus isn't more widely grown in the UK ), but don't believe that Dudleya and Echeveria hybrids can - and do - exist. Our plants have a way of continuing to surprise us, so I could be completely wrong.

There is a wonderful book edited by Henk 't Hart and Urs Eggli, Evolution and Systematics of the Crassulaceae, which describes the differences between Dudleya and Echeveria (they're not closely related as you'll know). Although the book is a number of years old now, it details failed attempts to hybridise the two genera. They're both independently promiscuous, but not with each other.

Here are 2 links that assert their existence: #1 #2.

I'm going to try to find and purchase some just to see them in person.

Getting back on topic: If I lived over there I would gladly adopt these forlorn plants.

[edds]

Don't know about the other nursery, but it wouldn't be the first time Surreal had got names wrong for plants I'm afraid.

Seeing a flower would be interesting and sending a message to ask them the origin of the plant might yield a result.

[Mike P]

I’ve always had the impression that they are generally large growing plants which I would have trouble finding space for. I have seen a lot of habitat shots of them at various Branch talks and they do have their appeal. Maybe when I get a larger greenhouse…..